Amnesty Form 1 approval

[CamoDeafie]

Submitted 1/20/2023, approved 3/15/,2023; conditional to Final Rule. Paper fingerprints.

12" 6.5 Grendel

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[solv3nt]

Submitted 1/20/2023, approved 3/15/,2023; conditional to Final Rule. Paper fingerprints.

12" 6.5 Grendel

Doesn't the Grendel need the longer barrel?

 

[CamoDeafie]

Doesn't the Grendel need the longer barrel?

For best performance yes but in a 12" barrel it outperforms a 5.56 from same size barrel.

Edit, as in more range, more muzzle energy due to heavier bullets than 5.56.

 

[solv3nt]

I'm curious as to how this will work when it gets thrown out in court. For example, do you get to keep the real stock?

 

[CamoDeafie]

I'm curious as to how this will work when it gets thrown out in court. For example, do you get to keep the real stock?

If NFA/GCA are judged unconstitutional, then sure, keep real stock. If only SBR portion struck down, sure. If only final rule thrown out... who knows.. 2 possibilities from only the final rule being thrown out; all amnesty SBRs are now regular SBRs and owners relieved of tax burden (right... wait for Congress or executive order to "fix that" )..

Or

All amnesty SBR owners must now pay $200 tax each.

 

[Stomper]

My guess is the latter, and I can see the letter of notice now…. You now owe the AFT $200, plus interest dating back to the date of issuance, payable immediately or you risk confiscation of said registered SBR.

 

[CamoDeafie]

My guess is the latter, and I can see the letter of notice now…. You now owe the AFT $200, plus interest dating back to the date of issuance, payable immediately or you risk confiscation of said registered SBR.

That'd result in yet more lawsuits anyhow and I somehow doubt the DOJ is wanting to go through that kind of heat yet again after this whole final rule fiasco. On the other hand, we haven't heard of any such retroactive tax requirements for the previous amnesties (Destructive Devices in 1994?, machine guns in 1968)

 

[Stomper]

Still holding out that they'll open the MG registry again so I can score me an M60……

 

[Stomper]

@solv3nt …. I know, right?!

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I'm curious as to how this will work when it gets thrown out in court. For example, do you get to keep the real stock?

It will likely be a while before it get' "thrown out". Most likely an injunction first, which would likely stop any new applications and probably those in process also (guessing).

I think those that have been approved will survive as sbrs through the injunction period. I also think they will survive after it's thrown out but that is just a WAG on that one. All just guessing of course but seems likely to me. It's kind of a race at this point for approval before the injunction.

 

[Ducati_Meister]

Mine were submitted on 2/28 via E forms. I hope they don't get whacked by the asinine AWB that's looming in WA.

 

[kmk1012]

When does the amnesty book slam shut?

 

[Caveman Jim]

Effem!!!

 

[CamoDeafie]

It will likely be a while before it get' "thrown out". Most likely an injunction first, which would likely stop any new applications and probably those in process also (guessing).

I think those that have been approved will survive as sbrs through the injunction period. I also think they will survive after it's thrown out but that is just a WAG on that one. All just guessing of course but seems likely to me. It's kind of a race at this point for approval before the injunction.

The injunction requests so far seems to be only to stop the ATF from enforcing "the Final Rule" Crap.

Mine were submitted on 2/28 via E forms. I hope they don't get whacked by the asinine AWB that's looming in WA.

Dang, that'd suck.

When does the amnesty book slam shut?

Supposedly May 31st; 120 days after Jan 13th publishment?

Effem!!!

If one already bought a pistol braced firearm or made one with a brace; they already complied with the NFA. Beyond that, do what you want and be prepared for any consequences.

 

[Caveman Jim]

I'll wait till the lawyers get done hashing it out, no sense to do something and then find it's reversed.

 

[CamoDeafie]

I'll wait till the lawyers get done hashing it out, no sense to do something and then find it's reversed.

Meh. Save myself the $200 and then worry about things later and see what happens?

Edit. Rule is absolutely gonna get thrown out, that is obvious in light of Bruen, Cargill, W.Va, and so forth... but there's still the NFA itself and the whole tax stamp issue. If the Supremes or even the District says nuh huh ATF cannot enforce this because it's nullified and voided... that still leaves the whole amnesty period... if District-Supremes says okay we see that numbers stated are way over whatever we think means "common use", SBRs are now common use and protected by 2a, no paying taxes and no enforcing tax stamps from whatever date forward...

 

[saxon]

conditional to Final Rule. means free unless it gets over turned they you may pay the $200

 

[CamoDeafie]

conditional to Final Rule. means free unless it gets over turned they you may pay the $200

That's the big question everyone is wondering. It may be that it may still be free even after the rule is overturned; depending on the Courts? At least for those who submitted within the 120 days

 

[CamoDeafie]

Oh yes. For those wondering. 53 calendar days from initial submission to "approved". So turnaround was within 60 days for me. Your Mileage May Vary. Also, 26.5 Overall Length and no additional photos or engraving requested.

 

[CamoDeafie]

No stock, no brace


Temporary M4 waffle stock, I am not a fan of it.




Sure it resembles this one used by the IDF


But this is the setup I really want...

So, I ordered a Harrington & Richardson Retro polymer CAR-15 stock from Palmetto State Armory, just waiting for it to arrive in the mail whenever.edit. not sure why it doubled on a photo??? Oh well. Duplicate picture lol