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Your pot or your guns

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by rufus, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    It was just a matter of time, no surprise Chicago is the place.

    Proposed medical marijuana rules: Your pot or your gun


    So, if you live in Chicago and you're dumb enough to forfeit your 2nd Amendment rights, the state would allow you to buy up to 2.5 ounces every two weeks.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Isn't that a lot of weed? 1.25 ounces a week sure sounds like a lot of smoking to me. In any case, I'm sure the liberal lawmakers in Oregon and Washington are wondering why they did not think of this idea first. Don't be surprised if the feds start talking this way. For all we know, this could already be buried in the fine print within obozocare. :paranoid:
     
  2. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Well at least you can buy taxed dope with your food stamps down in CO.
     
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  3. spectra

    spectra The Couve Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

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    So how are they going to fend off the local thugs when they come to steal the weed?
     
  4. feconn

    feconn Skamania Co. Washington Member

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    Not legally.
     
  5. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    You already cannot purchase a firearm in Oregon with a medical marijuana card, If you answer the paper honestly that is....

    All FFL holders got a paper stating so not long ago.
     
  6. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a good idea to me. As soon as they start doing the same with pain killers, anti-seizure meds, sleeping pills, and alcohol. Would need a BI and special permission card from the government for all of them.
     
  7. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean "legally"?. they are doing it right now in CO as I stated.. plus, it was/is a joke, especially if you are referring to federal law. nevermind
     
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    aslinged Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    That is a lot of weed to be smoking in two weeks, however I believe a good number of folks actually using it for medicine turn the ganja into oils, butters, etc. which requires a good deal of plant material to be input. As I understand it. Either way, who cares if they have two pounds per week or per day? There is no such thing as a right or a power to legislate what other people put into their bodies. Neither is self defense a negotiable right to be taken, granted or altered by anyone.

    Chicago--the vipers nest of modern global collectivism.
     
  9. DeanfromOregon

    DeanfromOregon Wilsonville Amateur Ascended Master Platinum Supporter

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    The weed business is strictly cash only. At least for now.
     
  10. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    The entire pot thing will cost you your gun rights eventually.
    Best bet, just stay the hell away from it.
    But don't complain if you don't listen.
    Even legalized you will have to choose one or the other.
    They already planned that one.
     
  11. DMax

    DMax Yamhill Well-Known Member

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    Legal pot free healthcare all to steal your liberty but hey you can be stoned and sick without a care in the world All Free :laugh::bluelaugh::laugh::thumbup:
     
  12. Darknight

    Darknight Salem Active Member

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    Not true, for now, we still have the ability to buy face-to-face and there is no paperwork or questions. What you say is true for all firearms bought through an FFL and that is in all 50 states, not just Oregon.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    You better fight Senate Bill 1551 in Oregon right now or that goes away too.
     
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  14. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    The actions in Illinois are an excellent example of a temper tantrum by the anti-gun crowd. If they don't get their way, then it's just "common sense" that someone, somewhere must compromise and pay, regardless if there's a connection or not.
     
  15. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    If you would have used all of my quote it is painfully obvious I was talking about FFL sales.
     
  16. feconn

    feconn Skamania Co. Washington Member

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    It is Federal law that sets what can and cannot be legally purchased with SNAP (food stamp) benefits. As I work in retailer SNAP compliance, I can say without any doubt whatsoever that medical marijuana (or any drugs, legal or illegal, including vitamins and other food supplements) cannot be legally purchased with SNAP benefits. That said, I can also state without any doubt whatsoever that it is being done illegally in all 50 states.
     
  17. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Our benevolent progressive leaders in Salem and D.C. who care about our health so much want to legalize weed? I think they're blowing smoke up our arsses fellows. It's a win win for the govt. just like tobacco and booze. If you don't believe that you're stoned!

    Wait to see how much your weed habits gonna cost you after they tax and regulate the hell out of it, I'll bet it triples in price! Uncle Sam needs more revenue for his social programs.

    Also just like tobacco, breathing smoke kills you faster so you won't be a burden on Obamacare in old age. Who needs death panels?

    Admit you're on the weed and they take your right to own a gun, and maybe sooner than later your DL.! Hello mass transit, It's good for the planet right? Cars are for old white guys anyway.

    It's all about control, control, control. So spark up another one and keep voting progressive. There's a reason some call it a Nanny State. They want to keep us as infintile and dependent on them as possible and its working.

    Each passing generation seems to mature a little slower and take less and less personal resposibility. Our nation is getting fatter, dumber and more medicated. That's O.K. though. The Dems care about us, I heard they want to make fast food jobs into a living wage! If only they just get elected one more time right! Just one more time......just one more time......utopia is just over the next hill.
     
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  18. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    I usually want to slap some sense into people who talk about "common sense reforms".
     
  19. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    However, if you as a seller are aware of any reason the person you are selling to is not eligible to buy the firearm, then you are breaking the law by selling that firearm to them.

    Some people, myself included, are now having a buyer fill out the questions on something similar to the 4473 to protect ourselves down the line if the transaction is later questioned.

    Unless you know the buyer personally, and I don't mean just from their posts on a firearms forum - you don't really know if you are selling to a strawman, a gang banger, a convicted felon, a drug addict, some crazy, someone the BATF has put up to trying to entrap you or a person reporter from 60 minutes who wants to put a video of you selling your AK on prime time TV.

    If you have them jump through the hoops, maybe even surreptitiously videotape the transaction yourself, then if the transaction comes back at you, you have a better chance in court - whether it is trial court or the court of public opinion.

    Yes, this is what we have come to in this modern world. Protect yourself - it is interesting that some people who carry a pistol for self-defense won't protect themselves with something as simple as having a buyer sign a piece of paper.