I really don't get the reputation that they have. I have a Taurus 709 slim in stainless and it is a fantastic weapon, great trigger, nice and compact, a real safety, and never fails to bang, and the company has fantastic customer service. My pistol a slight kink in the recoil spring (don't know if it was liek that when i bought it but it never affected how it shot I just wanted one that wasn't kinked) and they got one to me right away. I shot my brother in laws hi point 9mm carbine and I am not kidding you it was awesome, it is crazy to be ringing steel at 100 yards with a 9mm. I have also heard they have fantastic customer service.