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I was born here, and said I'd never leave these mountains, rivers, forests, and the coast... but the area has changed for the worse. Shelling out $$$ to stay is just not worth the stress and anxiety for me. Looking for greener pastures now.

But, I will miss these views...

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-Robert
 
If I could move....
Idaho and New Mexico sure seem attractive to me.
Andy

We love Idaho but it's filling up with commiefornians.

To answer the OP's question.
The SW corner of Montana/NW Wyoming has drawn us back the last 2 summers. We like the Kalispell area as well. We discovered Livingston MT this summer. It has mountains, forest, water, and by extension i am sure you find some river beaches. It checks off most of our boxes.
If budget and money is a concern i have seen phenomenal pricing for land and homes in Ohio. 10+ acres with a moderately sized home is cheap by PNW standards.

We are looking around but i think i am stuck. My wife has convinced me to tough it out until the kids graduate high school at least. She'd really like to retire away from her current job at 30 years of service. The benefits are tremendous if she sticks it out.
 
I was born here, and said I'd never leave these mountains, rivers, forests, and the coast... but the area has changed for the worse. Shelling out $$$ to stay is just not worth the stress and anxiety for me. Looking for greener pastures now.

But, I will miss these views...

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-Robert

I'm sort of in the same boat, but keep coming to a conclusion that there really is not much choice that gives me the following combination:

- Being near mountains for climbing hiking.
- Being near the sea for sailing.
- Decent terrain for flying (even if half the year you can't go up unless you filed an IFR)
- Not ungodly hot in the summer. (I hate the east coast humidity)
- Not ungodly snowed in and cold in the winter.
- Near (within 2 hours drive) some culture (read big city) and a major international airport.

Flyover country is mostly out, outside of some northern states with mountains. CA is obviously out. DC and north, no thanks. Florida, well "a man from florida..." , also see the culture comment above. Finally, I do believe climate change is happening and the south will only get worse climate wise, so TX and FL are also getting dinged for that.

So, what's left? At this point, maybe something outside of King county in WA, to get away from the Socialist Republic of Seattle, maybe east of the mountains, and then just invest into properties in the Mediterranean and South America as winter get away.

Yes, I know I paint a broad brush and that whole states are no uniform, but I have not done enough research to find something yet for the check boxes above.
 
The PNW is beautiful ... we are only 6 months since we moved to SD and absolutely love it here. We've had family from WA come visit already, so considering the move themselves as well. They are shocked at how much more "normal" things are.

We're more in the plains, but the west side of the state is Rocky Mountains (Rapid City or maybe even Deadwood. Spearfish is a cool little town)

But you obviously aren't going to get the ocean which I think long term will be the one thing I miss.


Still need to see how winter goes though lol
 
Every time I come home after visiting someplace else I realize what a special place Oregon is.

What's left of Oregon livability is a shadow of what it was 50 years ago.
 
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Beautiful pictures in the original post; thank you. The Pacific Northwest is indeed breathtaking in its natural beauty. If/when we bail I am going to miss it so.

To answer the question, most likely Arizona. I wouldn't rule out Nevada, Florida, or Puerto Rico, though those are much less likely. Though the southwest is where we're almost certainly headed for the last move, I am concerned about the water situation, but that is another topic.
 
The next property we buy will most likely be a beach property, it will be our 3rd property and most likely than now, our final one as it becomes too much hassle to manage so many places.

We're thinking of Florida or Texas, our 2 properties are in the west coast and I want something different this time. I want a nice, modern house on the beach. You know, the kind which you open your door and step right into the sand and have a walk on the beach with your wife and dog(s) kind of place. Maybe even make it our retirement location.

Another option would be to buy a property outside of mainland US. Maybe Bahamas or some other parts in Asia, where we'll spend winter and move back to PNW when its spring.
 
Texas. If you look at what is happening in this country, Texas is the last stronghold. That might change, but I still feel that it currently stands as the one state to make it out of any sort of country changing event. I feel that that is the reason they are letting in massive amounts of immigrants, to F up Texas.

I left California, aka Reno, and I'm never going back there. To us Oregon is the better state. Hopefully OR doesn't turn too sour as I age and the wife and I can accomplish our dream of dying on the OR coast.
 
Oregon has already soured, there is no fixing it at this point.

The sad thing is, doesn't matter where you go now, the Californian disease is infecting everything. Housing prices even in Missoula Montana are insane.
 
I am stuck here, for various reasons. But hypothetically, no place on the southern border. Like many folks, I would have chosen Northern Idaho 10-20 years ago (went to school in Moscow), but friends who are still there tell me it has changed drastically. No place E. of the Rockies, due to summer humidity, although I have to admit summer rainfall is nice. Not Colorado - too much like Oregon in many respects. That leaves Utah. I think I would consider that, for several reasons, one being that nobody seems to want to go there.
 
I been talking to a friend about this.. if you looking for beauty and just wanting to live.., then about anywhere short of a major city.. If your loking for freedom and pro 2nd amendment states, i am afraid those will be gone in another generation. I see even Idaho going purple in a cycle or two with all the people from Oregon/Washington/Cali moving there. Heck, Texas may even go purple next presidential election.
We freedom loving people are dying. every day we lose our numbers while the younger, farther and farther left leaning kids are being pushed though the little indroctranation camps and in a few years will be voting age.

now if i had the money I needed.. id move to Alaska. to cold for most people from Cali so maybe the cancer will slow there. :)
 
We bought a place in south central Colorado, right before the comiforniaction took hold, while it's mostly centered in the cities, thank God it has stayed there! The closest town is about 8 miles from us, it's a old school small town where everyone knows everyone, dosnt take to strangers until they get to know you and you prove yourself.
Christian conservative values are still the only acceptable attitude, along with hard work, sweat, and a healthy respect of the law, which is administered through the county Sheriff's office with a fair and just, even tempored hand!
The local grocery store is just as likely a good spot to meet as the cofveve shop or the few bars, and the feed and seed is where the real business takes place, usually on the tailgate of a pickup! Holidays are widely celebrated by all, and all are expected to take part in those festivities!
We get a pretty good crowd of tourists, especially in the winter season as we're at the gateway to world class ski resorts not too far away, as well as other winter activities, summer time sees the nude hikers visiting many hundreds of our local hot springs, which makes for some "Intresting" observations on the many hiking trails around the area! Though most folks are respectful and leave each other alone! Kinda funny to run into those folks right smack dab in the middle of Grizzly, Wolf, and Cougar country, and not a single gun among them, while your slinging a serious semi auto and a big revolver!
 
Moved here from Wisconsin in '88 for a job. Wife and I both are retired now. Washington has changed to much and we've never got used to the rain.
Looking to go home now. If I had the money, I'd summer out here and winter in the land of cow chips and beer farts.
 
Idaho looks good to me. I just can't currently afford to move, let alone find the cabin in the woods that I dream of. I want to garden and hunt on my own property, have no neighbors in sight. Be able to tinker in my garage on my cars and build my own guns. Going into town every few weeks for supplies.

I'm not anti-social, I just feel smothered and repressed by living in the city.
 
We made that move last year - we're in an extreme suburb of Houston, in a very conservative county (not a single dem on the county ballot last year) and we live just outside of a nice small town that reminds me of what Hillsboro was like when I was growing up.

The weather is amazing, if you can tolerate a few months of oppressive heat. Walking around in shorts and a T-shirt in January, catching largemouth bass year-round with regularity is never going to get old. The people here are friendly - at least when not on the roads (Texans are pretty scary drivers, but not really worse than Seattle or Portlanders)

There are a lot of small towns where the real estate prices are still very low.

IF we were to go anywhere else, southern Utah - the St. George / Hurricane area would top the list. NW Arkansas would be up there too - very beautiful with streams and mountains that would look like they're in the coast range.

I'm just over cold, wet climates so as beautiful as the PNW is, or the northern states are - I wouldn't live in any of them again. Warm & wet I can do. Cold & dry I can do. Cold & wet? Hard pass.

Texas' gun laws aren't as good as Oregons *were* before the last election, but they're still pretty good. We have permitless carry - though there are some restrictions imposed on permitless carry that don't apply if you have a CHL. IF you get a CHL you don't have to mess with NICS checks - your permit IS your check. "No guns" signs DO carry weight of law here - at least if they conform to the specific language in the law. Prior to permitless carry, you could still carry concealed in a vehicle without a permit. That law is still in effect, but kind of made mute by passage of permitless carry now.

Housing prices have ticked up this year, mostly because of other out-of-staters fleeing the liberal states for greener pastures. Still not near as bad as on the left coast price-wise. A brand new construction house just went up for sale in our neighborhood - 3 bedroom, 1/4 acre lot - $275,000. We got out place last summer - just under 3 acres with a 4 bedroom 2400 sq foot house for $212,000 but its an older mfg home vs site-built. The value is in the land moreso than the structure.

Our governor just EO'd that NO employer or "entity" shall compel their employees or customers to take The Jab, and called upon the state legislature to make that a priority during their special session to enact it as law. We passed a law that needs tested still allowing one to make & own suppressors so long as they're made and stay here in Texas - and part of that law (unlike say, Kansas) includes petitioning the state AG to seek relief in the Federal courts on your behalf. So far no one has petitioned the AG, or at least it hasn't made the news but someone will be the first case. You don't actually have to commit a federal crime before you get the AG to seek judgement for you - you petition them to take the case to the feds before you make your suppressors.

Most people around here are over the mask nonsense - there's a couple pockets of craziness - but again, the Governor EO'd a prohibition on subordinate governments from enacting mask mandates.

Life is about as normal as it can be in 2021 here.
 

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