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There is no justification to use deadly force at that point. Even if he is trying to detain the culprit. There is no fear for your life situation.I see the word confront as though the home owner was brandishing his weapon or had it in his hand as he approached the trespasser. Trespassing is a criminal offense and the property owner may have just asked whom are you looking for or are you looking for me for some reason? He is on his own sacred ground.
The idea of intent only moves the case from 2nd degree to man slaughter.........neither a good outcome. (Unless your name is Hillary)The property owner was sixty and may have physical difficulty's you may not be understanding of having not ever had the experience, for instance being breathless and having a bad heart. A struggle is now or may be life threatening under this circumstance.
We will just have to wait this out and hope for the best.
I would like to think the property owner had no real intentions of killing a person as he confronted the trespasser on his private property, no matter how large or small, city or no city.
Silver Hand
There is no justification to use deadly force at that point. Even if he is trying to detain the culprit. There is no fear for your life situation.
This is the point.........really tough, the guy took a loaded gun looking for a suspected trespasser (even left his house to do so) . Makes the only legal defense (fear for your life) problematic. Doesn't really illustrate fear.This is where this can turn into such a mess. If the guy comes after you and you shoot. Will Police accept this? Will you as shooter have the wherewithal to keep your mouth shut and not dig a hole? A LOT of people hang themselves by talking after this happens. Then if all goes well with Police will the "victims" family come out of the wood work and want to sue? It is sad we have come to this point in this country but it is what it is.
As hard as it can be I have to agree. My yard is fenced. If I see someone out there I would call 911. May ask at a window WTF are you doing and hit them with light. Walking out and confronting them is just asking for this. Sure it's his home and he had every right. The problem now is this may turn into a HUGE, and I mean HUGE financial mess for this poor guy. Anyone who wants to go out to confront someone has to stop and think. Will this be worth losing everything I have?
Yes, it is hard not to do this, I know. Many of us who have worked our entire life for everything. We just get a belly full of the dopers who steal with impunity while law makers protect the criminals. This often now leads to someone doing this. While ago in one neighborhood to north of us cars were getting broken into nightly. One guy got fed up and waited. Shot 2 of them. Of course he is off to prison now. People who work just get sick and tired of supporting scum.This is the point.........really tough, the guy took a loaded gun looking for a suspected trespasser. Makes the only legal defense (fear for your life) problematic. Doesn't really illustrate fear.
I see the word confront as though the home owner was brandishing his weapon or had it in his hand as he approached the trespasser. Trespassing is a criminal offense and the property owner may have just asked whom are you looking for or are you looking for me for some reason? He is on his own sacred ground.
You can't shoot someone while defending "your sacred ground" only your or someone else's life. That is the hard line. The shooter has to prove he didn't cross it because he will be accused. (Even cops used to carry throw down guns)I see the word confront as though the home owner was brandishing his weapon or had it in his hand as he approached the trespasser. Trespassing is a criminal offense and the property owner may have just asked whom are you looking for or are you looking for me for some reason? He is on his own sacred ground.
He did not take the police empty your mag class!Only one shot shows a lot of restraint under stress
He obviously shoots better than most cops.He did not take the police empty your mag class!
So........with PTSD, maby he can claim insanity? That looks bad on all us combat vets too........The libs have been trying to do that for a long time......I think it was Loretta Lynch that actually called we combat vets, the most dangerous people in society. The projectile receiver was probably a bad guy but there will be no winners here.Folks from Vancouver know the homeowner as he recently dropped out of the race for a city council position. He's a veteran with PTSD. The dead guy has a lengthy rap sheet. Note: the trespassers background wasn't known at the time, but the homeowners previous political dust-up that led him to drop out of the race could be used against him to suggest he has issues with impulse control and getting the facts straight before making a claim against someone else.
No humorous stories to tell about investigating a suspicious noise outside the house, but it has happened several times. I have motion activated exterior lights, but that hasn't proved a deterrence to raccoons and rabbits. Only called the police one time, when the noise continued even after the exterior lights came on behind the garage. I couldn't see anything from the nearest window, so I called the police to see if they'd check. They did, about 5 minutes later. When I saw his flashing lights outside, I turned on interior lights to help illuminate the yard better. A second car showed up a few minutes later. One of the cops phoned me to say all was clear. At that point, I told him I'd come outside [without a gun or flashlight]. Thanked him for the quick response, and he said he was nearby when the call came in.
i thought i had a backyard prowler once. i threw my plates on(no shirt, slippers and only bball shorts) and grabbed my suppressed 300blk pistol with streamlight on it. i crept out my front door/locked it behind me to find nothing except the wind and a tree limb scratching the siding.
I would like to think the property owner had no real intentions of killing a person as he confronted the trespasser on his private property, no matter how large or small, city or no city.
You can't shoot someone while defending "your sacred ground" only your or someone else's life. That is the hard line. The shooter has to prove he didn't cross it because he will be accused. (Even cops used to carry throw down guns)
If he has arms, he's armed.