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"These are my people - Americans."

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Chee-to, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Here is a great video of an NBC Reporter at a Tea Party Rally yesterday, where she asked a man if he "ever felt uncomfortable" at the rally since there are not "a lot of African-American men" there.

    http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2010/04/man-destroys-nbc-reporters-racial.html

    The video is great on two counts:

    1. It shows the absolute bias of the liberal media. The reporter was not there to report on what was being said by the citizens who assembled. She was looking for a way to try and discredit the Tea Party Movement. Their reporting is not always this blatantly biased, but it shows their true motivation.

    2. Most importantly, this man gave a stunning answer! Notice he said, "These are my people - Americans." Wow! Such an answer never occurred to this reporter! The Left is all about breaking Americans down into ethnic groups and interest groups - bringing division. This man does not see himself as a "black man" or an "African-American man." He sees himself as an "American!" What a novel idea!

    God bless him, and may we come to the day that we all see each other as "Americans."
     
  2. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    +1 :thumbup:
     
  3. isher

    isher Clallam County Member

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    Ask that of the Lakota Sioux

    On the rez.

    You might find a different opinion,

    When you pick up your grandmother's body

    Frozen to death, as it is so many times.

    hoka hey

    john
     
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    bersaguy Oregon Member

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  5. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    ? :huh:
     
  6. isher

    isher Clallam County Member

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    Trism -

    Something like 90% of the pre-contact Americans,

    From the Arctic Circle to Patagonia

    Were wiped out by a combination of war, disease,

    And, for lack of a better word, genocide,

    Between the early 1500's and the late 1800's.

    And it still goes on today.

    As my wife is partially Lakota, I am perhaps more

    Sensitive to this "elephant in the living room"

    Than most.

    I have nothing against this thread, per se.

    However, I do feel that there is a pretty consistent

    And well organized denial of what went down on

    This continent, which is where it hits

    Hot button status for yrs. truly.

    isher
     
  7. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    Welcome back isher. Hadn't heard from you in awhile.

    Yes, patriotism is a good thing. We need to come together as a country...I dissagree however, with those that would cast one side or the other as un-patriotic.

    Who am I or anybody for that matter to say "borders closed, now go back"? Within our own country? This is the kind of closed minded garbage that the media, liberal or conservative, have a heyday with and spin into prime time fodder.

    What was that you said Chee-to? "may we come to the day that we all see eachother as Americans" :thumbup:

    Our ancestors did some questionable things isher...and for that I am sorry.

    I hope that someday we can come together as Americans...not with arrogance ...but with humility and gratitude...God Bless All.


    Will
     
  8. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    My great grandmother was 100% Siksika Indian. We are all Americans now, what happened 150 years ago is no more relevant than the possibility that the black man in this articles family may have been slaves 150 years ago. I don't see the denial you speak of? Everyone knows what happened to the Indians. What would you have us do give all of America back to the Indians and us leave too?
     
  9. isher

    isher Clallam County Member

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    Trism -

    Not at all..........

    "Alexander Whitaker
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Alexander Whitaker (1585–1616) was a Christian theologian who settled in North America in Virginia Colony in 1611 and established two churches near the Jamestown colony. Known as "The Apostle of Virginia" by contemporaries, he was the son of William Whitaker (1548–1595), noted Protestant scholar and Master of St. John's College, Cambridge.
    Born in Holme, Cambridgeshire, Whitaker was educated at Trinity College, Cambridge and became a clergyman in the North of England.[1] Travelling to Virginia in 1611, he was a popular religious leader with both settlers and natives, for he was responsible for the baptism and conversion of Pocahontas. His relative tolerance of the Native American population that English colonists encountered can be found in his sermons, some of which were sent back to England to help win support for the new colonies in North America. The most famous of these sermons is Good Newes from Virginia (1613), in which he describes the native population as "servants of sinne and slaves of the divill," but also recognizes them as "sons of Adam," who are "a very understanding generation, quicke of apprehension, suddaine in their despatches, subtile in their dealings, exquisite in their inventions, and industrious in their labour."
    It was a marked difference from the other reports such as those by Cotton Mather which described the native population as little more than beasts, deserving of extermination.
    Whitaker drowned in 1616.
    Before leaving England, Whitaker had crossed paths with a York merchant who later became an English naval captain and explorer of New England, Christopher Levett off York. In Whitaker's will of 1610, and proved following his death in 1616, Whitaker noted that he owed "Christopher Levite, a linen draper of the city of York" just over £5.[2] Trained as a York merchant, Levett later founded the first settlement at Portland, Maine, where he was granted 6,000 acres by the King. The settlement failed.
    [edit]References

    ^ Whitaker, Alexander in Venn, J. & J. A., Alumni Cantabrigienses, Cambridge University Press, 10 vols, 1922–1958.
    ^ The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 11, Virginia HIstorical Society, Richmond, 1903
    [edit]External links

    Works by or about Alexander Whitaker in libraries (WorldCat catalog)"


    Good old Alex founded one side of my Mom's family.

    Interestingly enough, the other side of her family came

    From French Huguenot rebels who settled in Louisiana about the same time.

    Now, on my Dad's side, stone Danish, he

    Was conceived in Denmark, and born in England, on the way to the US.

    On his side, the coat of arms is a White Sphinx on a Blue Field,

    Which dates back to the Crusades.

    Throw in several Union and Confederate generals,

    And the persevering question of whether Alexander Whitaker

    And Pocohontas had any children,

    And you have a piece of the whole mary ann.

    So I will return to my single, and original point.

    90% of the existing population of the Americas

    Were wiped out within, say, 250 years after

    European contact.

    It is not a guilt thing, just a fact.


    isher
     
  10. CharlesAFerg

    CharlesAFerg Beaverton Active Member

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    Your post is excessively difficult to read or follow.
     
  11. Doubletap

    Doubletap Newberg Well-Known Member

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    Ethnicity aside..I think the point is that true Americans stand up for the Constitution..and stand and take their hats off when the Colors go by..and get a lump in their throat at the sound of our National Anthem.. Sadly..those are things the Left know nothing of.. I for one..am pleased to see those who do..finally making themselves known.. It's about *&%@ time.. :thumbup:
     
  12. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    Americans should stand up for the constitution regardless of leanings...left or right...red or blue...






    Will
     
  13. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    I guess I'm still not seeing the relevance to the subject of the first post? Can anyone enlighten me?

    A Black man choosing to be an American (inclusive to the whole) instead of an African American (separate from the whole) = Americans pretending not to know Indians were subject to genocide? :huh:
     
  14. Doubletap

    Doubletap Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I was just about to say we'd have to agree to disagree..then I saw the "should".... :laugh:
     
  15. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    Frankly, I edited the "should" in there later...:laugh:




    ...so you're right, we should just agree to disagree.




    Will
     
  16. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    I dont mean to contradict you, but every year, millions of animals are killed by cruel and out-dated experiments.

    The

    cold

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    Visit, the National Anti-Vivisection Society

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    More on point.... Good for him and shame on the reporter for attempting to divide people of like minds because their skins are different colors.
    Or, better yet, trying to project her discomfort onto him.
     
  17. isher

    isher Clallam County Member

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    Hmmm........

    Interestinger and interestinger.

    Trivia question for the day;

    On what date was the Constitution actually signed?

    I'll make it easy - September 17th, 1787.

    Now this doesn't include the Canadian government, or

    The various South American governments, or

    The Russian Alaskan Goverment, or

    The various French, Portugese, Spanish, English

    Tributary states created by violence and fiat.

    So, the next question would be this:

    Prior to that date,

    And extending back perhaps 30,000 years,

    Just exactly who were the Americans?

    And did the Constitution in any way recognize or validate

    Those peoples?

    Or the pre-existing Constitution(s) of their societies?

    A leading question, I know.


    isher
     
  18. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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  19. isher

    isher Clallam County Member

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    Trism -

    I am reminded of that old saying;

    "You can lead a horse to water,

    But you can't make him drink."


    isher
     
  20. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    And, "You can lead a horticulture
    But you can’t make her think” :eek:fftopic::eek:fftopic::eek:fftopic: