Square Register just said NO to Ammunition and Parts

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Uberdillo, May 10, 2013.

  1. Uberdillo

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    Since I recently became aware of inexpensive, mobile credit card readers, I noticed that at the last gunshow a large number of vendors use Square Register for their sales. I can only imagine how many merchants in their online directory come up when you look for the words "ammo" or "ammunition." They seemed to be the go-to option since Paypal has been sporadically enforcing their no firearm related sales policy and locking people's accounts along with funds. Square apparently just updated their user agreement from prohibiting:

    Old:https://squareup.com/legal/merchant-ua?elq=f303ed0d56d04848b68f647e4265afc0&elqCampaignId=58

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    New: https://squareup.com/legal/seller-agreement

    Seems like they'd rather be the preferred method for small restaurants.
     
  2. bzltyr

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    dont let them know what is being sold. Say its tree hugger flowers.
     
  3. Cremator75

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    Be nondescript on your receipt and explain that to the buyer. It will be a non issue like PayPal.
     
  4. Mark W.

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    true they aren't a bar code reader. They just read the buyers card and debt the account that much moving the money minus their cut to the sellers account.

    I use my Paypal Debt card all the time to buy firearms and gun stuff. It has a Mastercard symbol on it so it has to be accepted for anything a Mastercard is. Says what I am buying and from who right on the receipt and my account summary.
     
  5. Uberdillo

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    Sounds like business as usual then. Maybe I've just read too much internet rumor of lockouts from transactions on Ebay and Gunbroker.
     
  6. Redcap

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    Never tell these places exactly what you sell. It is none of their business.
     
  7. Stomper

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    Tell them you are selling hairy sacks, and that you'd be happy to send them a sample they that could take a smell of.
     
  8. nick1980

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    I buy gun parts on ebay and only use paypal. you can buy barrels, mags etc...
     
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  10. Will_Power

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    From another forum about this same issue:

    Source.

    Read further in that thread at R/Guns and it seems that the real culprit here isn't the evil, anti-gun Square, but rather all the panic buyers who have had second thoughts and caused a big spike in chargebacks.
     
  11. soyeah

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    I have no idea what's going on with Square and any policy changes they did or didn't make, but let's not get some mumbo jumbo about PCI compliance or per-swipe rates mixed up with concerns about what a payment processor says is an acceptable item to purchase. PCI compliance is an industry regulation. Prohibiting the sale of specific items is a bank/retailer/processor policy issue.

    Services from companies like Square are required to be PCI compliant, so any argument that they are NOT compliant is bunk. (And PCI compliance doesn't allow/disallow the purchase of specific items.) I really don't know what's happening with this whole Square issue, but it's worth noting that the e-mail address offered by the "manager for First Data" in the above link does not actually go to First Data. Their people use an "@firstdata.com" address, and this person used an "@firstdataisc.com" address. Somewhere in the thread there may be grains of truth here and there, but there's also a lot of garbage clouding the picture.
     
  12. Diamondback

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    Intuit has also outed themselves as anti-gun too, though...
     

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