Seattle Couple facing Felony & Misdemeanor Charges of Assault for acting in self-defense

[WALawyer]

Sorry, that was my mistake. I confused 3rd degree Assault with 4th degree Assault. It is only 4th degree Assault that is a misdemeanor. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree Assault are indeed all Felonies, as you pointed out. The only difference is that the 1st degree Assault charge the wife got is a class A felony, while the 3rd degree Assault charge the husband received is a class C felony. So if convicted, they would both become felons, and permanently lose their gun rights.

Sadly, my memory is no longer as sharp as it used to be.

Class A is permanent loss, class C is not.

 

[Heywood]

Anyone really surprised? We're talking about Seattle. I would love to go to one of these protests but I would be sure to go unarmed to avoid and commie charges from commie sympathizers.
Besides, I think it would be more fun to beat someone with a weapon I took from him..
The only hard part is telling apart the males from femails. I suppose that is the reason many lefty men try to grow beards.

 

[Hobo]

They carried on UW campus--which is illegal. Probably why the judge revoked their carry rights.

 

[HB of CJ]

Washington State has different states than Oregon which also has its states. I am going to go out on a very thin limb here. Could have this whole thing been avoided? Otherwise stated poorly why subject yourself to potential grief? Was their attendance required?

Could they have stayed home? Did they have to go? And if they did, were they looking for trouble? Not saying they were. I am suggesting they MAY have knowingly placed themselves into harms way? Just some other thinking here. Yes this may be defeatist.

But ... sometimes the best thing to do is nothing to do. There are lots of places and things we choose not to go to simply because the potential for shiet happening is not worth the mental hassle or anguish. This is just me/us. Respectfully. No real dog in this one.

Too late for the subject at hand and I apologize. I am thinking of the next time. Sorry.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Way to blame the victim. It was a Milo event. Marc wanted to get his hat signed. Did the antifa have to show up and start violence?

 

[DuneHopper]

First of all, hypothetically speaking , shooting with deadly force and the person lives means they can sue you later and speak against you. There is a reason its called deadly force, think about it before you pull that firearm.
If you are in the position where you can die at another hand, and you can use deadly force to eliminate the threat, well then think about it.

I am not a lawyer and and not saying shoot to kill, just take the context how you will.

 

[Alexx1401]

They carried on UW campus--which is illegal. Probably why the judge revoked their carry rights.

The judge did not just revoke carry for them. He revoked their right to poses a gun at all.

 

[Alexx1401]

Way to blame the victim. It was a Milo event. Marc wanted to get his hat signed. Did the antifa have to show up and start violence?

I don't think anyone here is "blaming" the shooter. At least not me. I am saying anyone who wants to go to some event like this needs to consider is it worth it too them? Considering they are both now out of a job and needing lawyers to defend themselves. At best they will be looking at civil suit next which again means they have to hire lawyers. So for getting a hat signed it's going to get quite expensive with them. It's everyone's personal choice to make as to whether they think this is a good idea.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

First it is a Trump rally, then a conservative speaker or two, next it is a parade. When does it end?

 

[3MTA3]

First it is a Trump rally, then a conservative speaker or two, next it is a parade. When does it end?

Fascism - Wikipedia

 

[Alexx1401]

First it is a Trump rally, then a conservative speaker or two, next it is a parade. When does it end?

The ONLY way it will ever change is if enough voters decide it's time to change. The people in charge are serving at the voters pleasure. Vote them out and things will change. Keep voting them in and this is what you get. It's as Ben said, "The people get the Government they deserve."

 

[nammac]

First it is a Trump rally, then a conservative speaker or two, next it is a parade. When does it end?

Avenue of Roses parade in Portland canceled because of threats of violence, so you can check parades off the list... Can check conservative speakers off the list as well, Anne Coulter was prevented from speaking at Berkeley...

So fascism is alive and well with the liberal/socialists...

 

[Certaindeaf]

Class A is permanent loss, class C is not.

Not what? Cart before the horse action? That's wtfff.

 

[U8395279]

Class A is permanent loss, class C is not.

Highly doubtful that an attorney could restore his rights in the state of Washington. While many Class C felonies are eligible for an expungement after 5 years have elapsed, felonies involving either violence, or a crime against a person, do not qualify. I see no way for him to ever get his rights restored, if he is convicted in court. He would have to successfully appeal this conviction.

Expunge Your Felony in Washington State | Kertchen Law

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[U8395279]

They carried on UW campus--which is illegal. Probably why the judge revoked their carry rights.

Dude, you have not been following this discussion. If she had broken any law by carrying her Glock, she would have been charged with a crime for doing that.

Anyone that is charged with a felony crime immediately loses their right to even possess a firearm, let alone carry one. Surely, you must know that, no??

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[U8395279]

Way to blame the victim. It was a Milo event. Marc wanted to get his hat signed. Did the antifa have to show up and start violence?

This is an aspect of this case that really bothers me. The DA claims that the couple went to the event with a plan to provoke conflict with the leftists protesters. He thus puts all of the blame on the couple for the incident, and none on the man that violently attacked Marc. But how can the DA possibly know that this was their intention?

Can DA's now read minds? Or is he taking the mere fact that they went to the event armed, as being evidence of premeditation? That is a scary thought.

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[Diamondback]

This is an aspect of this case that really bothers me. The DA claims that the couple went to the event with a plan to provoke conflict with the leftists protesters. He thus puts all of the blame on the couple for the incident, and none on the man that violently attacked Marc. But how can the DA possibly know that this was their intention?

Can DA's now read minds? Or is he taking the mere fact that they went to the event armed, as being evidence of premeditation? That is a scary thought.

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To a Douchebag Arsewipe with an agenda, your mere BIRTH constitutes premeditation because of your simply having the audacity to EXIST as an opponent of their Proggofascist agenda.

It's gonna have to get a hell of a lot worse before it can get better...

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

What I want to know is, were any of the antifa rioters arrested and charged for throwing punches and pepper spraying the conservatives?

 

[The Courier]

They love to throw in "Intent" on cases like this, they brought a weapon so they intended on shooting someone and forego the fact that the person carried a weapon everyday but because they attended location X with a pistol they now have intent.
I carry extra magazines up to 60+ rounds depending on the weather, that doesn't mean I intend on shooting anymore than necessary.

 

[WALawyer]

Not what? Cart before the horse action? That's wtfff.

Class C felony conviction is not a permanent loss of firearm rights. Class A felony conviction is a permanent loss of firearm rights.

Highly doubtful that an attorney could restore his rights in the state of Washington. While many Class C felonies are eligible for an expungement after 5 years have elapsed, felonies involving either violence, or a crime against a person, do not qualify. I see no way for him to ever get his rights restored, if he is convicted in court. He would have to successfully appeal this conviction.

Expunge Your Felony in Washington State | Kertchen Law

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All I do is restore firearm rights here. Assault 3 can easily be restored after five years. Expungement is irrelevant. You read the wrong part of my website.