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Original final total...
Final vote: 33 for, 27 against, 1 abstain

A couple minutes later, Rep Wilson changed his vote to No, so the new total would seem to be: 32 for, 28 against, 1 abstain

(Unless Wilson was the abstain vote, in which case, it would be 33 for, 28 against)


I am extremely cautious about those who changed their yes vote to no. I believe two of them did, I will have to re-watch it. How do we know they only voted no once they knew it wouldn't pass so they could please their constituents and act like they tried?
 
The same can be said about R label when they behave in the same manner. The root problem is people's belief in authority; see The Most Dangerous Superstition. The problem is both D and R and whatever label, they all screw everyone. There are boundless examples of party X vying to control the One Ring To Rule Them All. How about eliminating the Ring?

I wish the Dems would just shut up with all their BS testimony and speed this Dog and Pony show.

It's a done deal, They've been and will Vote Party line on this. They owe the people who paid for their seats.

Are they trying to convince us they sweated out and weighed all sides of SB941??

Who do they think they are kidding?
 
The same can be said about R label when they behave in the same manner. The root problem is people's belief in authority; see The Most Dangerous Superstition. The problem is both D and R and whatever label, they all screw everyone. There are boundless examples of party X vying to control the One Ring To Rule Them All. How about eliminating the Ring?

In this state most R votes go to the Patriotic direction and the "D"'s go to the totalitarian dictator or socialist tax em direction, and that is the difference. Isle crossing seldom comes to play unless it is a benign issue.
 
The same can be said about R label when they behave in the same manner. The root problem is people's belief in authority; see The Most Dangerous Superstition. The problem is both D and R and whatever label, they all screw everyone. There are boundless examples of party X vying to control the One Ring To Rule Them All. How about eliminating the Ring?

Yep.
 
The same can be said about R label when they behave in the same manner. The root problem is people's belief in authority; see The Most Dangerous Superstition. The problem is both D and R and whatever label, they all screw everyone. There are boundless examples of party X vying to control the One Ring To Rule Them All. How about eliminating the Ring?
Talk all the R & D label stuff you want but in this State the Votes prove the Progressive agenda will be pushed hard. You like the progressive agenda on guns, carbon tax at the pump, over the top public sector union benefits? Keep voting Dem or third party.
 
Watching Kotek, Hoyle and the rest of these idiots makes me wonder who the heck is voting in Oregon.

BTW Wilson just changed his vote to no for some strange reason.

Bluedog democrats. Although, in most of the I-5 corridor almost everyone for Sen/Rep runs unopposed, even on the Federal level. That is the real issue, no opposition, uneducated voters & a two party system that chokes out independents without multi-million (or billion) dollar war chests.
 
Talk all the R & D label stuff you want but in this State the Votes prove the Progressive agenda will be pushed hard. You like the progressive agenda on guns, carbon tax at the pump, over the top public sector union benefits? Keep voting Dem or third party.


You never saw WWF? (Pssst, it wasn't real.)
 
Bluedog democrats. Although, in most of the I-5 corridor almost everyone for Sen/Rep runs unopposed, even on the Federal level. That is the real issue, no opposition, uneducated voters & a two party system that chokes out independents without multi-million (or billion) dollar war chests.

Yep and the winners are the ones getting Bloombergs dollars stuffed into their rectums.
Then they try to stuff all their agendas into yours.
 

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