Russian T-14 - best tank in the world? But Russia can't afford to manufacture them?

[tac]

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[Nibbs]

Well back in the day when Rusty Calley was Scapegoated for " Pinkville"/ Mi Lai killings,
the US Dept of State released figures showing that over 165,000 Vietnamese NON-COMBATANTS had died as a result of Allied Forepower, & Nobody gave a Shyte....

And it Was Their Country....

I spose LBJ was trying to fill FdrS shoes...

just sayin...

 

[Diamondback]

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[Nibbs]

This is what happens when you slap an ally in the face like Pedo Joe did with the worst botched pullout since his own conception... unfortunately, the "fog of war" means that you can do absolutely EVERYTHING right and STILL end up in an "Own Goal."

Then again, Brit pilots on CAS in WWII kinda had a "shoot up everything that moves" attitude... so it might be wise not to open that can of worms too far.

Obligatory WWII-era truism lest I seem to be insulting our friends across the Pond: "When the British shot the Germans duck, when the Germans shoot the British duck, when the Americans shoot EVERYBODY ducks."

And IIRC the Brits started indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas first, so Pencil Neck Schicklegrubber retaliated..

 

[Ura-Ki]

Guys, NOT a good path too take this discussion! There can be no good from it, best to leave it where it is!

 

[CamoDeafie]

Wouldn't it be awesome if somehow..... ( riiiight..... like the American politicians would allow this...) that American training companies (ya know? Like OpFor contractors and Force on Force training schools?) would be able to... invest in Russian factories and companies, buy their new-built aircraft/spares/tanks/equipment... and train American militaries on them, not just in OpFor scenarios but also in cooperative scenarios (like Syria.. or parts of Sub Saharan Africa...)

 

[Nibbs]

Guys, NOT a good path too take this discussion! There can be no good from it, best to leave it where it is!

YUP!!!
You're correct..
I just harbor some really deep feelings abt all this crap going on...

And there Is Justification to Communicate the Reasons/ Serious Issues rather than play by THEIR Rules.....


Besides, I Definitely have a Bias for the Sheridan LAARAV.....

And Gust Avrakotos...

 

[DirectDrive]

Wouldn't it be awesome if somehow..... ( riiiight..... like the American politicians would allow this...) that American training companies (ya know? Like OpFor contractors and Force on Force training schools?) would be able to... invest in Russian factories and companies, buy their new-built aircraft/spares/tanks/equipment... and train American militaries on them, not just in OpFor scenarios but also in cooperative scenarios (like Syria.. or parts of Sub Saharan Africa...)

Nebba Hoppen

 

[DirectDrive]

Any Friendly Fire incident brings much sorrow to all parties involved.
Train, train, train to avoid it.

 

[The Heretic]

 

[GWS]

So what's our new tank going to be?
Something new or an upgraded Abrams?

 

[sobo]

My money's on an upgrade. It's a fine MBT. Why phuq widdit?

 

[Diamondback]

My money's on an upgrade. It's a fine MBT. Why phuq widdit?

Because it's too good, it won't let Traitor Joe's overseas masters give it to us up The Wrong 'Un.

 

[CamoDeafie]

My money's on an upgrade. It's a fine MBT. Why phuq widdit?

Why did the Marines give up their Heavy Armor?

 

[JuglansRegia]

Why did the Marines give up their Heavy Armor?

Maybe because they don't float

 

[Ura-Ki]

Why did the Marines give up their Heavy Armor?

Not quite yet, but soon!
They are going back to their roots, a slim and trim asset attached more closely to the Navy! Expect to see a much bigger version of the SEAL's with this move, at least in capabilities with out actually replacing them!

 

[DirectDrive]

Why did the Marines give up their Heavy Armor?

Because they can take them from the Army whenever they want.
Saves on maintenance.

 

[Spaz]

My money's on an upgrade. It's a fine MBT. Why phuq widdit?

M1A2C is the most updated we have and most of the force got it within the last 2 years. Probably another on the horizon.

 

[The Heretic]

Next gen tank:

 

[Cavedweller]

Why did the Marines give up their Heavy Armor?

They are putting that money into land based missle systems.

The Marines Want New Missiles to Help Take Out Ships at Sea

The service needs a way to protect shipping and to fight enemy navies.

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