Russia attacks Ukraine! WW3 imminent?

[jkor]

From the article:

Tammy Thorp, a spokesperson for the Central Intelligence Agency, similarly wrote: "This claim is completely and utterly false."

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."

William J. Casey, Director, CIA, 1981-1987

they could tell the left that a apple really is a orange and they would believe it.

 

[jayR]

Nothing to see here..
https://www.independent.co.uk/world/putin-nuclear-satan2-russia-ukraine-b2279633.html

Act of war ?
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

 

[monkeybutler]

Nothing to see here..
https://www.independent.co.uk/world/putin-nuclear-satan2-russia-ukraine-b2279633.html

I hope the Satan 2 goes off course and lands in Pyongyang. Or Putin's butt. Either is fine.

 

[Cavedweller]

Nothing to see here..
https://www.independent.co.uk/world/putin-nuclear-satan2-russia-ukraine-b2279633.html

Just a little fear mongering by the pro-Ukrainian cheerleaders.

 

[CountryGent]

From Defense News: 'Significantly degraded' Russian force is adapting after losses

 

[jkor]

Imagine if China diverts all resources from the USA to Russia. The USA would be fct

 

[Cavedweller]

From Defense News: 'Significantly degraded' Russian force is adapting after losses

The linked analysis by the Institute for the Study of War at https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-8-2023 is far more interesting and relevant than the referenced public comments by Celeste "Affirmative Action" Wallander, which amount to nothing more than .

Most interesting points from the article, cutting through the word salad:

1) We are not ready for this.

"Right now the NATO military staff is working new plans and a new force model to meet the new security environment, which is a more challenging one in terms of Russian intent and not taking for granted Russian capabilities," Wallander said. "That would be focused on approving those new plans, those new force models and identifying the new capabilities that will be required for NATO allies to have to be combat credible."

2) A shift to a wartime economy is needed.

"The U.S. is also leading conversations with allies about limited defense-industrial base capacity aimed at providing military aid to Ukraine over the long term while also maintaining allied militaries. While some munition production boosts have begun, U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen Hicks is leading an effort to unclog industrial bottlenecks.

"You will begin to see effects over time, and it won't be just incremental to break some of these bottlenecks," Wallander said, adding that the war was "an unfortunate wakeup call" about supply chain challenges."

 

[jkor]

we should not be going to war with Russia. We have our own problems.

 

[The Heretic]

Insight: How a band of Ukraine civilians helped seal Russia's biggest defeat

Clandestine operations by an underground of intelligence operatives, ex-soldiers and amateurs helped hasten Russia's withdrawal from Kherson - one of the biggest humiliations for the Kremlin in a war that marks its first anniversary on February 24.

www.reuters.com

 

[Cavedweller]

Insight: How a band of Ukraine civilians helped seal Russia's biggest defeat

Clandestine operations by an underground of intelligence operatives, ex-soldiers and amateurs helped hasten Russia's withdrawal from Kherson - one of the biggest humiliations for the Kremlin in a war that marks its first anniversary on February 24.

www.reuters.com

^
Ancient history.

 

[The Heretic]

^
Ancient history.

Ukraine holds defence as battles rage in Donetsk region, top commander says

Ukraine's forces hold defence along the frontline in Donetsk, including of the besieged town of Bakhmut, with the fiercest battles raging for the cities of Vuhledar and Maryinka, Kyiv's top military commander said on Saturday.

www.reuters.com

 

[Cavedweller]

Ukraine holds defence as battles rage in Donetsk region, top commander says

Ukraine's forces hold defence along the frontline in Donetsk, including of the besieged town of Bakhmut, with the fiercest battles raging for the cities of Vuhledar and Maryinka, Kyiv's top military commander said on Saturday.

www.reuters.com

Anything coming from Ukraine's defense ministry is propaganda designed for consumption in NATO countries. A better picture of what is happening can be seen in social media posts being made by ordinary Ukrainian soldiers in the front line, such as you can see here:

 

[jayR]

this can't be good.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...ates-tells-citizens-depart-russia-immediately

 

[jkor]

Haha. many Americans need to worry about the corrupt US government coming for them a lot more than Russia. People like Snowden and John Mark Dhogan are living free and happy there.

 

[jkor]

the US is going to escalate probably.

 

[The Heretic]

'Our Losses Were Gigantic': Life in a Sacrificial Russian Assault Wave

LVIV, Ukraine — Creeping forward along a tree line late at night toward an entrenched Ukrainian position, the Russian soldier watched in horror as his comrades were mowed down by enemy fire. His squad of 10 ex-convicts advanced only a few dozen yards before being decimated. “We were hit by...

news.yahoo.com

 

[The Heretic]

the US is going to escalate probably.

As in getting putting our forces into the fight? I doubt it.

What benefit would there be for the US?

As it is, Russia is getting ground down without the US or NATO sending troops into Ukraine.

 

[jkor]

As in getting putting our forces into the fight? I doubt it.

What benefit would there be for the US?

As it is, Russia is getting ground down without the US or NATO sending troops into Ukraine.

None of this has any benefit to the USA. I believe the USA is being set up for failure. We can't fight Russia and china at the same time.

 

[arakboss]

'Our Losses Were Gigantic': Life in a Sacrificial Russian Assault Wave

LVIV, Ukraine — Creeping forward along a tree line late at night toward an entrenched Ukrainian position, the Russian soldier watched in horror as his comrades were mowed down by enemy fire. His squad of 10 ex-convicts advanced only a few dozen yards before being decimated. “We were hit by...

news.yahoo.com

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/europe/russia-ukraine-vuhledar-donetsk-fiasco-intl/index.html

 

[Certaindeaf]

Looks like the censors struck before I could get a quote in. However,

RE: Nord Stream Sabotage Was CIA, US Navy Covert Op

It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. If we had not done it, we (and the rest of NATO) would be screaming bloody murder every day, pointing fingers, bloviating about environmental disaster and acts of war, and threatening retaliation and repercussions.

The fact that we have been virtually silent about the whole thing (not one word of protest about how all that greenhouse gas will impact the "climate crisis" ) is the most damning evidence of all.

That "reporter" has zero proof and is a Kremlin operative.
The investigation is still ongoing.
The likeliest party is Russia, sending bomb laden maintenance "pigs" from land based, russian controlled access points.