Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Recall an elected official over SB 941 - planning stages

Discussion in 'Firearm Legislation & Activism' started by bolus, Mar 30, 2015.

  1. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    3,383
    Likes Received:
    7,008
    4/17 Update. Recall petitions have been accepted. The planning stages are over. New thread here for the signature gathering phase
    https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/riley-mclain-recall.195405/

    4/8/15 update.
    Plan is still as below. Final touches on the recall petition is underway. We are coordinating with OFF and other recall efforts in the state.

    For those able to help with collecting signatures please sign in here
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1UElOPd30pJbSt4YuREpxR1gR70oQN0BZNIsWKVxQeps/viewform



    4/1/15 updates.
    First recall is now planned for Senator Chuck Riley.
    https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/Riley

    He is listed as a sponsor on SB 941. He narrowly won his district the last election with help from Bloomberg

    Last election results
    Oregon Senate Dist. 15
    Chuck Riley(D) 18,087 45.7%
    Bruce Starr(R)I 17,822 45.0%
    Caitlin Mitchel-Markley(L) 3,578 9.0%
    Write-in 116 0.3%

    we will need signatures from this district >6400
    XZuc3fx.png

    We have a few candidates for Chief Petitioner and will decide on one by this weekend.
    We have support from OFF, MK Tactical and Oregon Arms and ammunition.
    Still waiting for response from the Oregon Republican Party and the NRA.
    We need volunteers for signature collection (thanks for those already in the comments)
    We need volunteers for the Petition Committee (a face to face get together to read the rules and delegate work)



    Prior updates:
    How about we develop a thread on initiating a recall. If and when Senate bill 941 passes. I'd like to see one of the legislators who voted for it (or more) hit with a recall. I'd like them to feel that if they are going to ignore people in their district fail to respond to even simple questions, that their job is at risk.

    If it passes the Senate, I want the reps in the house to know that a recall petition is already being planned for anyone who votes for it. I want to tell them we are planning a recall before they get to vote for it.

    Here is the process
    http://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Pages/recall.aspx

    Initial thoughts:
    • We should target a legislator who was in a district where the vote totals were narrow making it more likely that they are recalled. Because only people who are registered in their district can sign the petition.
    • The chief petitioner must be a registered voter in the same district in which the public office holder was elected or appointed. Who ever runs the recall needs to be registered in the district
    • The number of signatures required to qualify a recall for the ballot is 15 percent of the total votes cast for governor, at the last election in the public officer’s district. After confirming who we will target, we need to fine out how many people voted for the governor in their district.
    • We have to get signatures in fast. We have 90 days to get all the signatures in after initiating the process. that means a lot of us will need to help on this. Perhaps we get OFF, 2nd Amendment foundation, Lars, all the gun shops, involved. We will need a lot of volunteers to get this to work. we will need volunteers in front of gun shops and sporting good stores collecting signatures.
    So the next step is to identify the legislators sponsoring this bill and review the election results at their last election.

    Who is the most vulnerable to a recall?
    Which districts are the most pro gun who would likely sign the petition?
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2015
  2. barrintp

    barrintp Gresham, OR Member

    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    31
    I don't remember who said it but the person who beat Bruce Starr won by a close margin (I think) maybe that's a start. Chuck Riley is who I was thinking of.:mad:
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2015
    HHT and GUNARCHER like this.
  3. Trothkin

    Trothkin Hillsboro, OR New Member

    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    5
    Chuck Riley in the Hillsboro area won by like a couple hundred votes. We had a 3rd party candidate that took enough away from Bruce Starr for Riley to win. Everytown also ran 75k worth of anti Bruce add, specifically on the UBC, that were very free with the truth and facts of Starr's positions. Saying things like he wants no background checks at all and is in favor of criminals and the mentally ill getting firearms. lol. Such crap.
     
    HHT and barrintp like this.
  4. 44Brent

    44Brent Olympia Member

    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    88
    An important thing to note is that you don't have to use the gun issue exclusively, you simply have to

    1) Find things that the legislator has done that could offends certain constituencies.
    2) Advertise to those constituent groups the things on which they should be offended.

    It's better to get 5 constituent groups offended at their legislator than just a single group. You don't even have to attack them from the right. You can attack them from the left, just as long as it gets the public angry with the legislator.
     
  5. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

    Messages:
    4,654
    Likes Received:
    5,773
    Let me know what I gotta do and Im down!
     
    CryWolf, HHT, jim97701 and 4 others like this.
  6. barrintp

    barrintp Gresham, OR Member

    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    31
    If CO can do it so can we lets roll!!!
     
    Harrytop, CryWolf, Brutus57 and 5 others like this.
  7. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    3,383
    Likes Received:
    7,008
    Excellent. Exactly why I want to start planning now. The more that we have on one, the better the chances.
     
    hker71, Ed Guinn, 40calruler and 2 others like this.
  8. barrintp

    barrintp Gresham, OR Member

    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    31
    Oh the wave of terror that would run thru the capital if we get one or more recalled:D
     
    Brandi, Mac_Fan, stascom and 5 others like this.
  9. tiggers97

    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    870
    Likes Received:
    792
    This bears repeating. He was able to get elected by avoiding the gun-control issue. He also had a huge amount of outside-Washington-country support to get elected (very few donations from within his district). And there is also the other billionaire who's investing in all the green energy that gave even more. I don't think he's made a big enough mistake (yet) to get a recall going. But it doesn't hurt to plant the seeds in the community and see what grows. Or find other groups (three or more subjects would be ideal) who feel the same way and want to work together.
     
    Brandi, 3MTA3 and Ed Guinn like this.
  10. tunus

    tunus PDX, United States Active Member

    Messages:
    231
    Likes Received:
    204
    I did some digging and to recall Riley, we need only 6000 signatures from District 15. It doesn't seem too bad considering over 21,000 voted against him in his district. I assumed that every Senate vote was also a governor vote.
     
    stascom, barrintp and Caveman Jim like this.
  11. tunus

    tunus PDX, United States Active Member

    Messages:
    231
    Likes Received:
    204
    I feel 6000 signatures is very attainable if we get a petition going at all firearm related businesses in District 15, and volunteers at a few busy public places. That's 10 volunteers, 600 signatures each.
     
    barrintp likes this.
  12. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    3,383
    Likes Received:
    7,008
  13. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    8,553
    Likes Received:
    19,914
    I like the idea. I don't know what I can do to help, but I'll be watching for an opportunity. No idea how this works or goes forward, but I can sign a petition and get some others to sign too.
     
    3MTA3, HHT and Ed Guinn like this.
  14. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,665
    Likes Received:
    1,827
    Be sure to include the never elected, appointed Sen. Elizabeth Steiner Hayward.
     
    3MTA3 likes this.
  15. 40calruler

    40calruler Lake Oswego Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,900
    Likes Received:
    1,335
    I really really like this idea. Give them good reason to listen to us in the future when one or more of their own is tossed on their butt. I am in. I have a few people I can speak with that can possibly help with better people to contact in Salem!
    If nothing else they could keep us up to date on how nervous the targeted folks are getting!
     
    Ed Guinn likes this.
  16. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    3,383
    Likes Received:
    7,008
    she's mine. I'll be the lead petitioner in her district
     
  17. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    5,310
    Likes Received:
    9,095
  18. tunus

    tunus PDX, United States Active Member

    Messages:
    231
    Likes Received:
    204
    If we get a lead petitioner in District 15 to file, I'll volunteers to collect signatures and coordinate with other volunteers. It's a simple numbers game. The more volunteers we have hitting the streets, the faster we can collects the needed petitions. Heck, once we get some momentum going, let's get some publicity through OFF, Lars, social media, ect. The publicity will send a clear message to the elected officials and generate even more signatures.
     
    HHT and bolus like this.
  19. Ed Guinn

    Ed Guinn Happy Valley oregon Active Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    120
    Likes Received:
    134
    Thanks for your efforts to organize this Bolus.
    You do know how to get things done! (see: his posts in the Volunteer threads.)
    Count me in, again, for anything I can do to help, if needed.

    I agree that the combined thrust of individual efforts, coordinated with NRA/OFF PAC's can have an positive impact on the outcome - and the right timing, with a little guidance, will probably be most effective.

    "Calling all fellow members of NRA and OFF to rally in support".
    Keep us posted Bolus, and thanks again for all you do.
    Ed
     
    Caveman Jim likes this.
  20. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,293
    Likes Received:
    755
    t Betty Close by a small margin.