Permission to Conceal Carry on Oregon Native American Reservation

[Nick Burkhardt]

Our Tribal Casino has signs stating that even though marijuana is legal in Oregon, you will be prosecuted by Federal law for use or possession on Tribal land. Yeah right. Someone is always lighting up in the Casino parking lot and the smell is so thick during Pow Wow that we stopped coming for the Fry Bread.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

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[Nick Burkhardt]

When I first moved here the Tribal Police would patrol the State highway that formed part of the Reservation boundary and hand out speeding tickets knowing that they would always be upheld. After the casino was built they stopped being such dicks.

 

[LVLouisCyphre]

Native American Nations are a weird legal nexus between being a foreign country and being part of the USA due to the Native American Treaty. If you're on a federal or State maintained highway, you should be legal. If you have to go through a highway or road maintained by the tribal government then you need to be cautious.

Keep in mind that the authorization to carry on a Native American Nation can change and be like Fizbin. If the tribal government changes, they can revoke your previous authorization or tribal permit. The only safe assumption is no.

We have the same problem in Arizona, Nevada, and Utah. You have to be careful if you cross the bridge that on the property of the Avi casino in Laughlin NV to cross the Colorado River into Fort Mohave AZ as the road on the Nevada side of the bridge is maintained by the tribal government.

I'm a CCW instructor based in southern Nevada and a presently a seasonal resident of Salem Oregon with a non-resident Oregon CHL through Grant County. The only thing Native American lands offer is gambling if they have a casino and purchasing fireworks that are illegal outside of the tribal land.

If you want to gamble and carry, go to Nevada. Oregon CHLs were added to the Nevada recognition list on June 25, 2017.

It's legal to carry in Nevada casinos just don't get caught or you'll get 86'd especially after 1 Vegas October. The only Nevada casino that has or is considering metal detectors after 1 Vegas October is the Wynn and Encore. It's pretty much don't ask, don't tell in Nevada. Some of my regular bartenders and servers know I legally CCW and along with being an instructor.

One thing that is a guarantee is that the tribal government can seize your firearm(s) and not give them back or make you jump through all sorts of hoops to get them back. It literally takes an act of Congress for a non-tribal member to take legal action against a Native American Nation. That alone should deter you from carrying on a Native American Nation or at the very least be very discreet about it.

 

[Jeedia]

If you are traveling on state hwy or interstates, and dont stop you are fine. The federal transportation act protects you as long as you do not stop. No gas, no bathroom breaks, or food until you are off the reservation(so to speak).

 

[wired]

I work on the res. No one gives a crap. Just want to make sure we understand that.

 

[TeacherSmurf]

Keep in mind that the authorization to carry on a Native American Nation can change and be like Fizbin.

I love playing Fizbin, but only on Tuesdays!

 

[LVLouisCyphre]

I work on the res. No one gives a crap. Just want to make sure we understand that.

If no one cares, then why do most Native American Nations refuse to allow paleface to carry on their lands? Is there some political reason? I would rather not be a test case for a given Native American Nation or tribal LEO and lose one of my peacemakers or lose my may issue Grant County Oregon CHL or Connecticut permit.

The other thing that makes me laugh is every other State or Native American Nation have casinos as a prohibited area. I think to myself, "You call that a casino?" We don't have casinos in my corner of the universe; we have megaresorts, a couple of them have their own mega malls and a couple of them have their own microbreweries.

 

[Certaindeaf]

You know what they say, "It's better to be judged by twelve than scalped by six!".














not really I made it up

 

[wired]

If no one cares, then why do most Native American Nations refuse to allow paleface to carry on their lands? Is there some political reason? I would rather not be a test case for a given Native American Nation or tribal LEO and lose one of my peacemakers or lose my may issue Grant County Oregon CHL or Connecticut permit.

No seriously. No one cares. Its like trying to explain island time . They have laws on the books they don't care about and no one else does either. I know very few people , myself included , who don't carry when theyre out on the res. I bet if you did a survey of cars out in the parking lot 90% of them would have a firearm of some sort in there and we don't allow guns on the premises either. 1/3 of the people driving on the res don't have drivers license or know how to drive for that matter. If you are speeding and a tribal cop sees you they just blip their lights and keep going. Its not like out in whitey world. You get pulled over for something on the res you think they ask if you are carrying? Hell no. They don't care.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Speaking of permission, in Japan, no one will jaywalk or cross against a "don't walk" sign.. even if no cars are in sight, for the last half hour, and a pack of rabid dogs is after them.

 

[DuneHopper]

I never pay any mind to it, been on land many times, I am also not a nimrod and carry a AT strapped either.
I think it has allot more to do with respect, then what might be under your shirt.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

 

[Arlington2018]

I live close to the Tulalip reservation in north Snohomish County, and in fact my wife and I were there last night eating dinner. The Tribe requires a concealed pistol license issued by the tribe in order to carry concealed on the reservation. Tulalip Tribal Codes at 11.30. The Tribal codes at 3.50.030 state that concealed carry is permissible by a person permitted to carry under State and Tribal law to do so. This suggests to me that a Washington CPL by itself is insufficient to carry concealed on the reservation. You also cannot carry in any building owned or leased by the Tribes even if you have a State or Tribal carry license.

All of the Tribal deputies are also cross-commissioned as Snohomish County deputies

 

[LVLouisCyphre]

IMO, it's not worth being a test case. It's not worth losing your firearm(s) or CCW(s). Getting caught and trespassed from a Native American Nation is criteria by all Oregon Sheriffs to have your CHL revoked.

 

[wired]

I was in the gas station out on the Yakama res yesterday. Generally 20 to 40 people in there at lunch. Counted at least 2 people concealed carrying and 2 people open carrying. It was the first time I have ever seen someone walk up to a stranger who was open carrying to thank him for doing so.