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Well damn, and here I went and threw all those cable keylocks in the garbage, because, well...they are garbage.
I actually sold some of mine to lock collectors
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Well damn, and here I went and threw all those cable keylocks in the garbage, because, well...they are garbage.
Ha! If so I'm paranoid! I went to "Quit F-in Talking".I believe that means "quoted for truth" as in, he agrees with you.
Could mean quit bubbleguming talking, but I don't think so
Yep. They're NOT pro 2A. I didn't say they were. But they are pro a bunch of the other As, including the 4th. I recently read they filed an Amicus brief with a pro-gun group challenging a law that permitted police to seize a guy's firearms without due process.This is not true. The ACLU believes the pre-Heller "interpretation" (in quotes because it was all bullbubblegum as the SC had never really ruled on it IMO) of the 2nd was valid. So they didn't back then because laws restricting individuals owning firearms weren't constitutional violations. Post Heller they don't think Heller was ruled correctly; they still contend that the old way was valid.
ACLU says the 2nd is about a "collective right." Not an individual right. lol as an ex-ACLU member I've had this discussion in the flesh.
So no, they don't figure anything like what you state.
Part of our country's problem now is that people with disagreements don't engage with each other anymore and treat people with differing views as human, making it impossible to compromise on anything. The result in the legislative arena is nothing gets done.
My brother in the same household has 2 of mine, pistol and shotgun.How many HD guns do you intend to keep at the ready?
If, lolNews
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FOX 12 reached out to the governor's office to see if or when she might sign this bill, but we have not gotten a response yet.
I'm the only one 'armed' here, beside my bed is a silencer equipped 10.5" bbl AR (bio trigger lock) and a Glock 32 in a bio lockbox. Scattered throughout the house are a few more lock boxes with a Glock 19, a S&W 360PD, and a Sig P365. Everything else is in a safe, unloaded.My brother in the same household has 2 of mine, pistol and shotgun.
By my bedroom door, AR pistol and AR shotgun.
Turn key cabinet and chamber a round... A decent selection... hate to have to lock them up further out of reach.
It was previously legal to do it other ways but that doesn't make those ways a good idea.
That lock, a simple metal rod twist would on the cable, snap it off...obvious attempt to get the gun owner on a illegal gun storage of some kind, they
easy peasy pick
obvious attempt to get the gun owner on a illegal gun storage of some kind, they
easy peasy pick
You know if an inexpensive rapid access biometric safe that will fit my shotgun and ARs I currently wall hang?
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I don't think you are going to find may Oregon LEO's who disagree, who think this law is worth anything or who plan to enforce it. I don't see how it can pass Oregon Constitutional muster.Here's the Highlight Reel for those whose eyes glaze over reading legal documentation.
IANAL - so this isn't legal advice.
- Storage Requirements
- If the gun is not on you or under your direct control then it must be secured
- Secured means with a trigger lock OR in a locked container OR in a Gun Room
- The gun is considered NOT SECURE if
- The gun is a handgun, left unattended in a vehicle, and can be seen from outside the vehicle
- A key or the combo to a lock is readily available next to your locked cabinet/safe
- Violations
- Go read this yourself. Too many If/Then's and various classes of violation/misdemeanor for me to adequately summarize
- Transfers
- Transfers must be done where the gun is transferred with a trigger lock OR in a locked container
- Loss/Theft
- Must be reported within 72 hours
- Supervising a Minor
- If the kid is holding the gun, you are directly there watching.
- Some exceptions for hunting, target shooting. If this applies to you, check out the bill
- Gun Dealers
- Must place a sign. No, really.
- "The purchaser of a firearm has an obligation to store firearms in a safe manner and to prevent un- supervised access to a firearm by a minor. If a minor or unauthorized person obtains access to a firearm and the owner failed to store the firearm in a safe manner, the owner may be in violation of the law."
- Public Buildings
- A Public Building may develop a policy for No Guns on the grounds. They'll post a sign. Your CHL will not be a defense.
- This includes Schools, Colleges, Public Buildings, Airport Passenger Terminal...read the law for more specifics on this
What grinds my gears is that the Public Buildings section DOES NOT apply to retired law enforcement or current LEO's. Sorry LEO's - if you're not within the scope of your employ (so, acting as a citizen) then all citizen laws should apply. That should be doubly true for retired LEO's. This sort of exception to the law effectively creates a caste system whereby LEO's are privileged over us common folk...fairly certain the founders would have strong words about such a system.
hahaha...not much is LPL approved. Granted most folks aren't armed with "The pick Bosnian Bill and I made"