Oregon Firearms Federation home page has been updated with new information regarding David Pyles.
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Could you expand on that thought a little, please? I'm not clear on what your thinking with it.
I believe in this case he does not need a "legal defense fund" because he is not being prosicuted. They are asking for money from donations so they can use that money to try to make Pyles rich. Technically they are on the offense since they seeking monetary damages. It is rediculous that they should ask for money in this case when any lawyer that thinks he has a chance of winning would gladly work for a percentage of the judgement.
Gunner, the situation you describe and the police admit to, the use of SWAT, smacks of the iron fisted Soviet secret police tactics.I'm a freedom lover who hates a liar. When OFF put an appeal for money on their site based on claims that the cops had acted like the Soviets to accomplish their goals after their attempts with the legislature at taking our guns via new laws failed, they were liars.
They were sensationalist liars trying to stir up the donors by inciting hatred for cops.
It was clearly untruthful and money motivated.
If OFF wants my support, which they have had in the past, they are going to have to keep it clean.
I HATE a liar.
Damn, I've agreed with Gunner on a lot of things based on principal and available information... I guess I am a dissenter as well.
Yep, this has gotten clear out of control. Every night, several hundred different Oregon swat teams spread out to terrorize the populace. It's outta control, I tell ya.
They are raiding people and homes by the thousands every night and plan to get the rest of those guns from everyone. They won't stop until all gun owners are in mental wards with their guns confiscated.
I just don't know what we're going to do about this complete takeover of gun ownership by the OSP and other agencies. Just a few more days and there will be no guns left in private ownership.
Why, right now the OSP is before the legislature try to get all guns outlawed and they'll probably win.
Oh wait. I've never heard of something like this Pyles incident happening before, even though it probably has many times every day. The OSP is really a stealth organization, after all. No one would notice the swat teams, squad cars, red lights, bullhorns, large forces with uniforms and weapons...
Could it be that it's very rare? Naw, their all out to get me. I just know it. I'm doomed.
Wow, straight out of Saul Alinsky's playbook. Ridicule the opposing view.
You're looking more and more progressive as we debate gunner.
Don't attack the info, refuting it with facts.
Attack the poster, ridiculing their argument.
The facts don't support your argument gunner, plain and simple. There was no "willful submission" on Mr. Pyles' part.
It isn't happening all over Oregon, thank God, because OSP probably realizes now how/why they screwed up.
If your line of thinking about how this came about was really valid, it would be happening all over Oregon.
I haven't been convinced that the police do this often or that they did it with ill intent.
No one has proven that they acted outside of the law.
IMO events like this aren't the fault of the police or "the system". It's all the media/people who freak out everytime there is a shooting and try to find someone to blame/sue. Can you imagine the blowback on the police if they had done nothing and he had actually killed someone? I guess they were pretty much in a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation.
Except the police were already doing their job and had him under surveillance. What exactly was he going to manage to accomplish?