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Need some advice on what to get for scope/red dot mount for ak

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Stick, Jan 24, 2011.

  1. Stick

    Stick Eugene Member

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    I'm thinking i may want to put a scope or dot sight on my ak but I've seen several different kinds and am not sure what to get.
    I don't want anything bulky or that sits to high and mounting one to the removable top cover seems like a bad idea.
    I was thinking I might get myself a deer tag this year and see what I can do with the ak. I'm sure I'll be about as good as I've have in the past (meaning terrible) but figured it could be some good dad/kid time
     
  2. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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  3. spengo

    spengo GLORIOUS CASCADIA Active Member

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    Well, if I had an AK and was going to get an optic for it, I'd get one of the 1-4x PSO scopes from kalinkaoptics.com. It has that authentic Russian look to it. If I was going to use the AK seriously for practical rifle competitions and stuff I'd get a side rail->weaver adapter and put an Aimpoint micro on it.

    You are correct in your assertion that the dust cover is not a good place to mount optics. I always lol when I see people doing that. You would never be able to zero the derned thing because the dust cover moves around way too much. The correct place to mount an optic on an AK is on the side rail. This is what was designed for mounting optics.
    kms74rail.jpg
     
  4. toddt36

    toddt36 tacoma Member

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    The other thing thats cool about the optic mount on the side is that you can find a mount so you can still use iron sights which I think is critical an any choice of sights for me.
     
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    toddt36 tacoma Member

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    Dieselfuel12v Bellingham Member

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    I've heard great reviews of that red dot as well. I think it's insane to spend $450+ on a red dot.

    I bought this mount for my AK, it holds rock solid, and I love the flip lever. You can slide the mount off in a second, and it holds zero (can't see iron sights with it on). I just rarely if ever use a optic on my AK, but it does the job.

    Leapers AK Double Picatinny Rail Side Mount With Quick Detachable/Lock Lever MNT-978 FREE S&H MNT-978. Leapers UTG Riflescope Mounts, Rings & Bases, Leapers Riflescope Mounts, Rings & Bases.
     
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    toddt36 tacoma Member

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    Samson AK-47 Rear Sight Rail: MSP Scope Mounts

    This is a mount which seems interesting but a little too pricey for what it is imho. Also not the review, turned his cheekweld into a chin weld, which really probably happens with any optic, but.... they say you can still see your rear sights but a pic would be nice.
     
  8. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    If the scope is too high for a proper traditional cheekweld, try 'kissing the stock' (rolling forward on your cheek until your lips are pointed downward) and shooting with your left eye instead of your right. This is how I shoot my PSL. It was a method taught to Soviet, and now Russian soldiers, and works quite well with a PU sniper as well.

    Keith
     
  9. spengo

    spengo GLORIOUS CASCADIA Active Member

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    Wut, that's some crazy stuff bro. I'll have to try that next time I get to handle a scoped AK. Left eye, eh? Crazy.
     
  10. MikeE

    MikeE Portland Well-Known Member

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    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Spengo, I expect I'll have to shoot my regular AKs the same way (left eye, right hand stance) once my PK red dot arrives.

    Wanna try something really freaky? Try shooting your AKs left hand stance. Nearly everything is easier to do...all types of reloads, malfunction drills, cycling the charging handle...pretty much everything except taking the safety off Safe. I shoot all of my AK rifles lefty when using open sights.

    Keith
     
  12. spengo

    spengo GLORIOUS CASCADIA Active Member

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    Yeah, AKs do seem to have controls designed for lefties. I have shot left handed, but I generally use my left eye when shooting left handed and right eye when shooting right handed. I am right handed and right eye dominant so I usually stick with my right side. I practice reaction side shooting because it is often required at practical rifle competitions. Normally I use a squared-to-target thumb-over-bore stance in competitions and that works well for me from either side. I have just never heard of or seen anyone doing right handed, left eyed shooting for serious use and my mind was boggled.
     
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    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it is a bit weird. I'm a righty who is grossly left eye dominant, so I shoot however I can get a proper cheek weld so I can use my left eye. For the PSL, Mosin PU etc, that's a righty position with that 'stock-kissing' position mentioned earlier. Otherwise, I'll shoot predominantly lefty position.

    Keith
     
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    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I've been considering an ultimak mount with a vortex strikefire or SPARC. I emailed vortex today and asked if it would hold up to the heat and scott said he's done a lot of full auto AK testing with that setup and hasn't had a problem.
    I have a vector without the side mount so that's not an option for me even though it's probably the most secure.
     
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    MikeE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Let us know how the VORTEX works with the Ultimak. My Ultimak is very secure and allows for good cheek weld and co-witnessing. Aimpoint is the gold standard (there was a deal a while ago on R-1). I wonder if the redesigned EOTECH makes it better able to stand the heat that builds up with the Ultimak? Have you heard anything on that?
     
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    Dell_dude Vancouver, WA Member

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    I was going to say the AK Iron Dot from Larue Tactical, but it looks like they might have stopped making it, which is a bummer, since that's what I wanted on my AK. :(
     
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    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I haven't heard anything about the new EOtech with regard to heat, just that the heat has killed some of the older ones.

    This is what Scott said when I asked if the strikefire will hold up ok on an ultimak mount:
     
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    bmw2 Mount Vernon, Wa Active Member

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    I have one of these Primary Arms Micro Dot (Gen 7) and they sell them as a package with the ultimak mount. So far, I really like it but I have only put around 500 through the gun with it so I can't comment on durability but it's very light, low and the dot is nice and sharp. Previously I ran a Millett fixed reticle red dot and shot well over 5000 rounds with that one. I switched it out to save a little weight but back when I got it they were only $60 so I can't complain.
     
  19. Stick

    Stick Eugene Member

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    So I would need to buy something like this
    sksakadap.jpg

    And then this to go with it
    plakcr.jpg
     
  20. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    If your AK doesn't have the receiver base, than yes you'll need to install one.

    The sight pictured has a weaver style mount...good to get if you also plan on using rings to attach and experiment with different types of scopes. Most Russian/Belarus AK scopes come with the scope permanently attached to the mount, so this is a better option if that is your intent.

    Keith