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Meeting scheduled on SB 385 expands definition of 'court facility'

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by bnsaibum, Feb 23, 2015.

  1. bnsaibum

    bnsaibum Corvallis, OR Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    The Oregon Senate Committee on Judiciary is scheduled to meet on Thursday, Feb. 26 to discuss several bills including two related to firearms. SBs 385 and 86. SB 385 "Adds justice court and municipal court to definition of "court facility" in which firearms and other weapons are prohibited except in specified circumstances."

    https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2015R1/Committees/SJUD/2015-02-26-08-30/Agenda

    Make sure to let 'em know how you feel.
     
  2. SHPD_Retired

    SHPD_Retired Saint Helens Well-Known Member

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    Many cities have enacted laws to prohibit weapons in Municipal Courts already so it would not be much difference to the status quo. I know the city where I live has done so.
     
  3. bnsaibum

    bnsaibum Corvallis, OR Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    That is great for those cities that have done so.

    But I've got to ask; Do you think it is the right course of action? Especially considering that this is the State telling those cities what to do?
     
  4. SHPD_Retired

    SHPD_Retired Saint Helens Well-Known Member

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    I don't think security in Municipal and Justice Courts is quite as necessary as they do not hear felony cases but consistency might be good so the people would know.
     
  5. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Give an inch and the take a mile, such as expanding the ban to the entire building or property instead of just the court facility. Bad because many small Municipal Courts are attached to City Halls or Library buildings.
     
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  6. SHPD_Retired

    SHPD_Retired Saint Helens Well-Known Member

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    And most of the cities that have enacted the law about municipal courts have also included the whole city hall area in the prohibition. They have already taken the mile.
     
  7. 1Asterisk

    1Asterisk Eugene, OR Member

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    In that case, let's just all roll over, show our bellies, piddle a bit and let them take another mile.

    What is so damned hard about understanding "shall not be infringed"?
     
  8. SHPD_Retired

    SHPD_Retired Saint Helens Well-Known Member

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    I understand it. The government doesn't. That is why we need to be armed and ready.
     
  9. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Courts already have the authority to prohibit weapons. This law is totally unecessary.
     
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  10. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    My gun club meets in the same room where the court is held, It's Newberg




    02.24.15




    Today, Linn County passed a Second Amendment Resolution that was also signed by the Linn County Sheriff.


    The list grows almost daily. Everyone who has contacted their commissioners or showed up to support our Second Amendment rights is to be commended for their hard work and success. Our thanks also go out to every elected official who has had the courage to do the right thing and take a stand. Congratulations Linn County!


    While the haters of liberty continue to push the lie that almost everyone in Oregon supports more restrictions on our rights, the growing number of counties who have created messages of support for the Second Amendment proves them wrong.


    Jefferson County is scheduled to hear a Second Amendment Resolution tomorrow at 9AM. Please be in attendance if you can. Jefferson County Administrative offices are located at 66 SE D Street, Madras. The latest version of the resolution can be seen here.


    Administrative Phone: 541-475-2449


    On Thursday the Senate Judiciary Committee will be hearing SB 385.


    SB 385 adds Municipal Courts and Justice Courts to the places that are off limits to CHL holders. This is dangerous, unneeded and misguided.


    In Oregon most Courts are already "no self defense zones," as are the offices that serve the courts. It is illegal to have a firearm in "court facility." That means a "courthouse or that portion of any other building occupied by a circuit court, the Court of Appeals, the Supreme Court or the Oregon Tax Court or occupied by personnel related to the operations of those courts, or in which activities related to the operations of those courts take place."


    Municipal and Justice Courts very commonly meet in places like City Halls or local police stations. Not only do they share buildings with them, they often share rooms. If this bill passes, a room that is used for Municipal or Justice Court, even one day a week, will now be considered a "Court Facility." That would mean that those buildings would be off limits to CHL holders all the time, even when they were being used for things like City Council meetings.


    What makes this bill all the more unnecessary is that the Municipal Court Judges already have the power to ban guns in their courtrooms if they choose to.




    Please contact the Senate Judiciary Committee and urge them to vote no on SB 385.


    Contact info and a sample message follow:

    Senator Ginny Burdick sen.ginnyburdick@state.or.us
    Senator Sara Gelser Sen.SaraGelser@state.or.us
    Senator Floyd Prozanski Sen.FloydProzanski@state.or.us
    Senator Jeff Kruze Sen.JeffKruse@state.or.us
    Senator Kim Thatcher Sen.KimThatcher@state.or.us

    Dear Senator,


    SB 385, in your committee on Thursday, is a misguided and unneeded intrusion on the rights of Oregon citizens.

    Municipal and Justice Courts almost always meet in facilities that are shared and used for other purposes. This bill would make those rooms and, sometimes whole buildings, off limits to licensed gun owners even when they were being used for purposes other than court.

    Judges already have the power to ban guns there if they choose to.

    I urge you to vote no on SB 385.

    Yours,

    _______________________




    On another note, we'd like to introduce you to a new pro-gun forum by our friends at Oregun Shooters. It promises to be a lively place to visit and comment.


    Thank you for your continued activism.
     
  11. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Anyone make it to the meeting or hear how it went?
     
  12. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Its a 3-2 slant with the anti's in charge... want to take bets on how it went? o_O