Always like to give credit where credit is due. I used this subsonic expanding 500gr Maker bullet to harvest a blacktail and it worked as advertised. I launched it at at 1000fps from a 458 socom and poleaxed the deer at close range. Bullet entered high in nasal cavity and lodged in neck. Wicked petal expansion with no shearing. Buck did not take a step.. These bullets are like Barnes bullets on steroids.