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Bear Bullets

Discussion in 'Northwest Hunting' started by Dyjital, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    A buddy wants me to accompany him this year for fall black bear.

    While I'm too cheap to buy ammunition, I'm looking for suggestions on reasonably priced and readily available projectiles for black bear.

    Naturally I'll be rolling our own for this expedition.

    Here are the details:
    .308
    1:12 twist for both rifles
    Both rifles are a Remington 700 (one SPS and one hunting w/ tapered)
    0-300 yard shooting
    165-180gr
    Will be loading mag length rounds
    Trying to keep in the >$40/100 range

    I've been looking at the:
    Sierra GameKing, Pro-Hunter
    Hornady Interbond/Interlock
    Suggestions were to not use polymer tipped rounds. (Chuck Hawks)

    Suggestions?
     
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  2. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I've killed plenty of black bears with polymer-tips. Both Hornady and Accubond from a 300WM.
    I've also used Sierra GameKings, but from a 338WM and not with as much success as you would think.
    The last bear I killed went down in a pile at about 200 yards from a 100gr Nosler Ballistic Tip from a 25-06 during last year's deer season.
    Not sure why someone would recommend not using polymer tips. I've since switched to all polymer bullets for all loads in all my rifles. Accubonds are hard to beat. Interbonds are great as well, and less expensive than Accubonds. I just can't get them to shoot straight from my rifles.
    From a .308, shoot the bullet that sits in the middle of the Venn Diagram between speed and accuracy, 15gr of weight won't make a difference to a bear at ~2600fps.
     
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  3. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    I've dropped a number BBs, 44 mag., 30-30, 308, mostly one shot at close range but then my friend's uncle was killed by a BB when deer hunting so maybe I was just lucky. 308 is plenty of power, even the run-of-mill 150 grner will put em down. I used 165 Herters/180 grn Rem bullets because that's the stuff that was handy
     
  4. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Thank you @2506 and @erudne. I was taking a look into a more rounded style like this:
    Product - Sierra Bullets - The Bulletsmiths (https://www.sierrabullets.com/store/product.cfm/sn/2170/308-dia-180-gr-RN)

    Though I really haven't ruled out any polymer tipped bullets. I edited the above regarding the polymer tipped because it came from Chuck Hawks website. I usually find that information spot on. While they weren't told to stay away from, they were advised against.

    I was considering the more blunted shape because they are similar to the Remington Core-Lokt ammo that I've had extensive experience with in the past. I don't believe there has been anything I've shot at that didn't drop when hit (key-when hit) with those Core-Lokt rounds. I sure miss the CXP-2 and CXP-3 munitions that Winchester used to roll out. Those were deadly as well (with polymer tip but not used on bears).
     
  5. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I would go with a factory box of ammo.

    A box of 20 will last you and your partner a few seasons hunting bear.

    Then make your own based on how the factory stuff performs.

    I don't reload yet though so maybe I'm talking out of an exit hole.
     
  6. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    150gr .308 Remmy Cor-Lokt's are the shiznit in my Ruger American Rifle (RAR) ;)
     
  7. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    165 corelokts were my go to until i started reloading
     
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  8. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    180 grain Sierra GameKing, shot out of my Rem 700 BDL, in .308, hand loaded of course. I was hunting the Imnaha unit a few years ago... One shot, the bear dropped over dead at 415 yards. I'm more than happy to share my load data, if you like.

    That may seem like a long shot but its pretty easy. All it take is a little practice, learn to read the wind a little. I use a standard military sling, and always have it ready to sling up, and sit Indian style. Plenty of time to shot as they are always pretty far off.
     
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  9. Koda

    Koda Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    I would think with a 308 it wont matter what bullet you chose other than I would go with one that has the flattest trajectory.

    I'd be curious to learn why to avoid the polymer tips? Seems like those are the new way to go. I’ve been using 2506 Federal Premium Sierra Game King loads and have dropped 3 elk clean DRT with one shot but this summer I’ve been getting better groups with Hornandy polymer tips, I think they offer a better ballistic coefficient.
     
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  10. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    I have always done well using the Good 'Ol Corloked Rem Pills! As long as they enter the boiler room and exit, they have always preformed well. I usually shoot with a .30/06 or 7 MM rem mag, so the speeds are up there, I have also seen big blackies taken with a .243 so I would agree, just about any well placed shot should anchor a bear! Going North, or here in the Rockies, We have bigger Grizz, so they take a better performing bullet. I like the Swift A-Frame and the Swift Scirocco black tips for this kind of work! BUT, the Ol Corloked still works very well! Not the most accurate, but it gets the job done. I have not tried any bear hunting with the .308, but I would say it should work just fine with 150 to 168 gr loads!
     
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  11. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Out there, 415 yards is a chip shot. Been going to the Imnaha every spring for bear for decades (I'm old). Used to be 1 bear every square mile, the most dense bear population in North America. The last 5 years or so, not a bear to be seen.
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Might want to take a peek at the Accubond 110 grainers. They actually shoot faster out of my rifle than 100gr NBT. Haven't shot anything with them yet, but fingers crossed for deer season this fall!
     
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  13. Koda

    Koda Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    ive been using the heaviest grain I can find, currently around 120g since I use this for elk my guess is the heavier grain will have more penetration or bone breaking...
     
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  14. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    You'll have people tell you they kill bears with there .243
    And that's doable with placement.
    You wanna shoot and find a bear quickly? Use a 180 grain or bigger.
     
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  15. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    I will admit the lightest bollit I use is the 180gr. I shoot long ways off sometimes and like the results of the heavier ones.
    2 years ago .338 Lapua 300gr Sierra.. Bear slowly grazing, facing uphill. One shot kill at 690 yards.

    I've been going to Imnaha for 25 years now and have seen the numbers go down. But I have a few spots that are still very productive but require a 3-5 mile hike... I still see dem bears in there!
     
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  16. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    I also believe solid copper is better for bears.
     
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  17. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    I would almost prefer a .270 win with 130gr swift A-frame for bears in the PNW!
     
  18. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    I've killed them with my .270
    I using a short mag now. Headed towards a 7mm or .300 mag custom rifle.
     
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  19. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    I really like the 7 mm, but would need to find a really light weight one like a Sako Finlight! My Mauser is 9 pounds, and that gets to be a bit much to lug all over the mountains! Maybe i'm just getting to be a puzzy in my old age! LOL
     
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  20. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    I'm shooting for a 5.5 lbs before the scope that I can hopefully shoot hood groups at 900 yards.
     
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