Liberty safes - "backdoor" access code?

[Alexx1401]

Fourth Amendment

Fourth Amendment Explained​

#1 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,

ok a warrant was issued


and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,

ok so far

and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

hmmm goober ment does not have safe listed then it is a violation, if Liberty safe and or the goober ment open said safe PERIOD

Sadly what is written means nothing any more. What some black robe says goes.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

 

[JRuby]

In the Navy a torpedo man chief had a large double door safe made out of half inch plate. This was on Mare Island Naval Shipyard. One heavy safe. This was back in the early 80s. Great safe if you never moved it

 

[saxon]

then there is this little gem, ill just leave it right here

 

[Koda]

then there is this little gem, ill just leave it right here

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and heres the fact check to back that up...

Monomoy Capital Partners Profile: Summary

Monomoy Capital Partners organization profile. Contributions in the 2022 cycle: $96,863. Lobbying in 2022: $0. Outside Spending in the 2022 cycle: $0.

www.opensecrets.org

 

[The Heretic]

Weird: Liberty Safe Dials Revealed To Only Turn Left

PAYSON, UT — Liberty safe owners attempting to retrieve their guns today were surprised to discover that the dials on the safe now only turn to the left.

babylonbee.com

 

[Member 34319]

Man Liberty is getting a beating on this!

Should be going after these guys.

Leading high-security lock solutions - S&G

Part of a global family of brands, Sargent and Greenleaf delivers high-security solutions for a wide range of industries.

sargentandgreenleaf.com

Unless this is something that doesn't involve the lock itself?

Just swap it over to a manual dial if it keeps you up at night.

 

[Koda]

Man Liberty is getting a beating on this!

It just sucks to learn of another "gun company" working against gun rights. Especially with an expensive investment product like a gun safe.

 

[Stomper]

The back-door combo to the one on your right is C-O-K-E……

 

[The Heretic]

Just swap it over to a manual dial if it keeps you up at night.

Or order it that way to start with - most safe manufacturers offer mech dial as an option, often S&G.

 

[PiratePast40]

Still haven't seen anything about if the warrant actually named the safe contents, and if it applied specifically to Liberty Safe Co, and a requirement for the safe company to provide access.

 

[Member 34319]

It just sucks to learn of another "gun company" working against gun rights. Especially with an expensive investment product like a gun safe.

I wouldn't say they did. They likely thought they were providing a service to folks and it backfired.

 

[Alexx1401]

Still haven't seen anything about if the warrant actually named the safe contents, and if it applied specifically to Liberty Safe Co, and a requirement for the safe company to provide access.

You most likely will never see that. This is yet another great example of "gun people" eating their own. As it gets closer to election you will start to read more and more of this kind of stuff. Gun owners seem to love to line up and shoot themselves in the foot, then scream when they lose yet again.

 

[Koda]

Libertys response to this situation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/16b8rgz

 

[JTK1791]

Still haven't seen anything about if the warrant actually named the safe contents, and if it applied specifically to Liberty Safe Co, and a requirement for the safe company to provide access.

Only thing that would require them to provide the access code is a subpoena, even if the warrant covers the contents of the safe the warrant is for the property of the man being raided not the company that produces said individuals safe.

Something I find funny is people boycotting companies after pulling bubblegum like this (I'm not trying to defend them) but will gladly spend thousands at training centers that also train feds to kill us

 

[Kruel J]

Liberty Safe responds to backlash as anger grows over giving FBI code

Liberty Safe customers will now be able to "take control of how their information is stored and protected," the manufacturer said in a statement.

www.newsweek.com

 

[JTK1791]

Liberty Safe responds to backlash as anger grows over giving FBI code

Liberty Safe customers will now be able to "take control of how their information is stored and protected," the manufacturer said in a statement.

www.newsweek.com

Too late. How many others have they bubblegumed over before this that went unnoticed because it wasnt a hit media piece

 

[Alexx1401]

Only thing that would require them to provide the access code is a subpoena, even if the warrant covers the contents of the safe the warrant is for the property of the man being raided not the company that produces said individuals safe.

Something I find funny is people boycotting companies after pulling bubblegum like this (I'm not trying to defend them) but will gladly spend thousands at training centers that also train feds to kill us

Way too many of the "gun community" never miss a chance to shoot their own foot.
If the authorities show up wanting in the safe they are going to get in. Yet many will use this an an excuse to try to take business from this company while ignoring what is being done to them by legislation. Keep the rubes chasing shiny objects while they are being hosed.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Only thing that would require them to provide the access code is a subpoena, even if the warrant covers the contents of the safe the warrant is for the property of the man being raided not the company that produces said individuals safe.

Something I find funny is people boycotting companies after pulling bubblegum like this (I'm not trying to defend them) but will gladly spend thousands at training centers that also train feds to kill us

Oh, no, you see they are only training the feds to kill people we don't like. I can see where you might have missed that subtle but important distinction

 

[nwslopoke]

You most likely will never see that. This is yet another great example of "gun people" eating their own. As it gets closer to election you will start to read more and more of this kind of stuff. Gun owners seem to love to line up and shoot themselves in the foot, then scream when they lose yet again.

I'm sure Liberty had no idea this would go public. All the other times it must have just floated by.

Gun people do tend to point out when the gun industry say one thing the act another way. Like saying, have a nice day, when they spit in your coffee. You leave thinking, what nice people. Once you know better, take your business elsewhere.