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Good point about mags I would have to buy frame and mags now and then buy the rest of the parts later. I just wondered if it would be a problem with their bound book since the firearm came in as a handgun but left as a frame?Good question, I do not believe FFL's are willing to sell you a firearm and later "claim" that they kept the mags.
I would like to purchase one of these because I have mags from a previous buy that will fit it.
New release does not come with ten rounders (yet)
Absolutely!! Done all the time! They make more money parting out a pistol than they do selling it whole.Can a gun shop legally separate and sell me the frame only from a complete pistol they have in inventory?
"I" haven't bought just a serialized frame before, but I've bought other components that were new stripped parts and saw all their kit in the glass counters. They were very open about what they were doing. That particular brick and mortar sold most with the gun case, complete slide and OEM accessories as a "kit", then you could buy the mags loose or add a frame for a complete firearm.... but.... buying them ala carte would run you an extremely heafty premium over just buying an assembled firearm somewhere else.Where have you done it?
I think that was more common before all the aftermarket slides became available. I imagine some people still want the factory stuff but I think that market has shrunk considerably. Here are some factory upper parts kits still available."I" haven't bought just a serialized frame before, but I've bought other components that were new stripped parts and saw all their kit in the glass counters. They were very open about what they were doing. That particular brick and mortar sold most with the gun case, complete slide and OEM accessories as a "kit", then you could buy the mags loose or add a frame for a complete firearm.... but.... buying them ala carte would run you an extremely heafty premium over just buying an assembled firearm somewhere else.
Their business was centered around build kits and components.
It's not all that uncommon. Black phoenix customs, podium archery (used to but got out of it), granger tactical... and the list goes on. Some of them take it next level by selling stripped uppers, the upper parts as a kit and the barrel seperate as well. That allows you to mix and match stuff without paying for stuff you're going to swap out, anyway. The same with frames.
I'm not saying that all FFL's will part out a new firearm, but they could if they wanted to and some might. Some outfits it's their whole businss model. Parting new firearms for the increased profit per unit. Legal chop shops... I guess.
I would like one of these kits but not for $450."I" haven't bought just a serialized frame before, but I've bought other components that were new stripped parts and saw all their kit in the glass counters. They were very open about what they were doing. That particular brick and mortar sold most with the gun case, complete slide and OEM accessories as a "kit", then you could buy the mags loose or add a frame for a complete firearm.... but.... buying them ala carte would run you an extremely heafty premium over just buying an assembled firearm somewhere else.
Their business was centered around build kits and components.
It's not all that uncommon. Black phoenix customs, podium archery (used to but got out of it), granger tactical... and the list goes on. Some of them take it next level by selling stripped uppers, the upper parts as a kit and the barrel seperate as well. That allows you to mix and match stuff without paying for stuff you're going to swap out, anyway. The same with frames.
I'm not saying that all FFL's will part out a new firearm, but they could if they wanted to and some might. Some outfits it's their whole businss model. Parting new firearms for the increased profit per unit. Legal chop shops... I guess.
I dunno. The market seems pretty split into 3 groups. Those that want cheap.. anything will do... clone stuff that is highly questionable. The "I want bling" group that is all 3rd party custom bling that costs a fortune (but highly questionable on performance mixing and mashing components, too). Then the, I want a reliable tool group that will only buy full on OEM.I think that was more common before all the aftermarket slides became available. I imagine some people still want the factory stuff but I think that market has shrunk considerably. Here are some factory upper parts kits still available.
I frequently saw stripped factory glock frames for under $100.
Yeah. The money is really in the slides, and no wonder why places part our new firearms, right! $400 is about the going full price rate for a new complete slide. A huny on a frame, 80 for a frame parts kit (more if you do extendeds), 30 per mag, another 30 for an OEM case. You're into it, base price... 700 for a $500 OEM pistol.I would like one of these kits but not for $450.
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FWIWNew m&p metal only ships with 17 round mags.
Would like to purchase one new in WA without mags.
I should have made myself more clear.
If this is correct, I may have to search for private party sellers who will sell frame and parts separately. That would greatly complicate the transactions and eliminate the transfer cost savings.dealer has to sell it to you as a pistol if he took it in as a pistol. even if its the frame since it was complete when it entered his store and should be in the bound book as such
Are you related to that magician that had a show where he told the world all of the magic secrets?Can a gun shop legally separate and sell me the frame only from a complete pistol they have in inventory?
Yes.Are you related to that magician that had a show where he told the world all of the magic secrets?
Uhhh... HU?? I'm missing the point, logic and conclusion there....If this is correct, I may have to search for private party sellers who will sell frame and parts separately. That would greatly complicate the transactions and eliminate the transfer cost savings.