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Must be something about driving in a different state, as the majority of the time if I see a stupid driver here, the car has Washington plates. California drivers seem to do better.
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Hasn't this topic already been beat to death in numerous threads over the years?
Yes... but now the horse is a Zombie, beating it is no longer good enough.
Pretty sure it does in Oregon. Personally i can see where both sides are coming from. Groomit congrats on getting out of the ticket, and having your guns fondled.Is it required to show CCW permit in WA? Does it show on the record if cop punch in driver license number?
Is it required to show CCW permit in WA? Does it show on the record if cop punch in driver license number?
Here in WA the officer has the right to search the vehicle without probable cause for "office safety" during a traffic stop. This has been to the WA Supreme Court.
Refusing to surrender your weapons would sure raise my level of concern if I were an officer and doing a traffic stop.
You provide a link or it did not happen...I do not believe you.
May I add: If a person is stopped for criminal activity (a traffic stop is not criminal activity) the rules may change, but you show us all a link to a WA state supreme court decision that involves a "traffic" stop...not a "trafficing" stop.
yes in Washington they have the unconstitutional right to search for "safety"... violates my fourth amendment. I love liberty.
How does a an officer know...? they don't. However this is still America therefore innocent till proven guilty. (speeding is not prof that I am a nut job wanting to kill people, it only means I have a lead foot.
When asked for my guns.. they don't get them. ( and yes I have been asked for them, and No I wouldn't give them!!) They do not have the right to take them unless the have just cause. And I wont them the have them just because they asked.
Just my nutty liberty loving thoughts..
Besides.. How do I know they are not a nut job wanting to kill me? about the same odds..
If this thread encourages bkb to stay in Oregon I'm okay with this. Oregon drivers suck almost as badly as California drivers, and there's enough of you road pollutants in Washington as it is.
Must be something about driving in a different state, as the majority of the time if I see a stupid driver here, the car has Washington plates. California drivers seem to do better.
Properly read the 4th Amendment allows NO searches without a warrant signed by a judge, based on sworn testimony that specifically states what, where and who is to be searched
ALL other searches are unconstitutional
You must have missed the court case here in WA that specifically allows searches wihout consent for "officer safety". It was handed down by the WA Supreme Court.
I guess if you disagree with that you need to get arrested for it and take it to SCOTUS for their interpretation.
You must have missed the court case here in WA that specifically allows searches wihout consent for "officer safety". It was handed down by the WA Supreme Court.
I guess if you disagree with that you need to get arrested for it and take it to SCOTUS for their interpretation.
Can someone post up the supreme court case stating that they can indeed search a vehicle without probable cause? Seems Herman has asked, and no one has provided, and this seems like a pretty critical thing to know.
Is it required to show CCW permit in WA? Does it show on the record if cop punch in driver license number?