House sitter and my obligations re: firearms

[Certaindeaf]

I'd make sure she was properly armed, knows where the spare mags are, and familiar with the fields of fire for the home

No miso gyn soup for you!

 

[Member 34319]

Our house sitter is a very polite young man. His dad is an avid shooter and my wife works with his mom.

When he watches our place, most of the reloading gear sits out in one room. As does most of my rimfire ammo. I'd likely not miss it if he did take any of it! lol.

Guns are in the safe. Safe is in one of the rooms in the house, it's pretty obvious what might be in there.

Honestly I'm more worried about hiding the anchors for the sex swing in the closet!

 

[308]

Not sure I ever needed to find out seks swing anchors are a thing

 

[CRBMoA]

Not sure I ever needed to find out seks swing anchors are a thing

They aren't, really.

Anchors are for the hobbiest.

Built-ins FTW!

 

[308]

They aren't, really.

Anchors are for the hobbiest.

Built-ins FTW!

 

[CLT65]

My wife showed me something in the paper years ago (remember newspapers?) it was a "Dear Abby" advise column, or something like that.

A lady wrote in to say that they'd hired a 13 yo babysitter for their young kids. They came home, paid her and took her home, and noticed she was quieter than usual.

Later they noticed that their bedroom VCR (yes, old story) had been messed with, and there was a tape in it- one of their private, homemade tapes, that the babysitter had apparently found and watched.

Her question was whether she should have a talk with the mother. The answer was that she should offer to pay for some counseling.

 

[40Garand]

My wife showed me something in the paper years ago (remember newspapers?) it was a "Dear Abby" advise column, or something like that.

A lady wrote in to say that they'd hired a 13 yo babysitter for their young kids. They came home, paid her and took her home, and noticed she was quieter than usual.

Later they noticed that their bedroom VCR (yes, old story) had been messed with, and there was a tape in it- one of their private, homemade tapes, that the babysitter had apparently found and watched.

Her question was whether she should have a talk with the mother. The answer was that she should offer to pay for some counseling.

One didn't need a BETA or VHS to learn about the segs in the 80's. All you needed was a couple of promiscious 6th grade girls with daddy issues explaining it to 3rd grade boys in great detail on the playground at a private school.

 

[Flopsweat]

My wife showed me something in the paper years ago (remember newspapers?) it was a "Dear Abby" advise column, or something like that.

A lady wrote in to say that they'd hired a 13 yo babysitter for their young kids. They came home, paid her and took her home, and noticed she was quieter than usual.

Later they noticed that their bedroom VCR (yes, old story) had been messed with, and there was a tape in it- one of their private, homemade tapes, that the babysitter had apparently found and watched.

Her question was whether she should have a talk with the mother. The answer was that she should offer to pay for some counseling.

My question would be how far into the tape did she get.

 

[CLT65]

To the OP, I do apologize for my part in the thread drift as this one goes off the rails. It seems like at least some of the replies were germane to your original question.

I learned a long time ago that any thread I started would inevitably take on a life of its own, and would develop rabbit trails and thread drift in short order. It used to bug me, until I realized that starting a thread was a bit like releasing it into the wild. It was no longer mine as soon as I posted it, and it was just going to go wherever it will. If I was lucky I'd get at least some useful information back.

 

[Cavedweller]

Our nannny's new boyfriend is apparently in the coast guard, so...

...must be at least 6 feet tall.

 

[gryghin]

This all hypothetical But you answered my primary question - would I need to tell her what's in the safe?

Would you tell anyone if you had gold bars in there?

 

[CRBMoA]

While I appreciate the sentiment of forward thinking, I am saddened that the consideration of liability when a victim of crime is the FIRST thought.

Most of us have multiple cars, and if we can afford to need a house sitter, likely leave at least one vehicle at home when recreating.

Y'all put the keys in the safe and a boot on the car??

Just askin'?

Either I can trust you in my house or I cannot.

 

[Hueco]

While I appreciate the sentiment of forward thinking, I am saddened that the consideration of liability when a victim of crime is the FIRST thought.

Most of us have multiple cars, and if we can afford to need a house sitter, likely leave at least one vehicle at home when recreating.

Y'all put the keys in the safe and a boot on the car??

Just askin'?

Either I can trust you in my house or I cannot.

Unfortunately, the recent focus on safe storage and laws affecting such (and placing liability on the gun owner) have caused the change in focus.

 

[40Garand]

Or she somehow gets the crazy idea to break into my safe and mess around with the guns (totally not likely, but my imagination is bonkers). What laws apply and what are the risks?

Invest in a safe that gives you peace of mind and that's properly installed. I don't care if it's a 1200 lbs. safe on the 3rd floor of your mansion, bolt it down! This will help quell your bonkers imagination. It's nobodies business what you own or store in your safe. There are no laws that apply here and there should be no cocerns for risk if you have the proper equipment in place and you actually utulize it while you're away from home. If your bonkers is still rearing its ugly head background check your house sitters or guests. If you are still not at peace I would suggest getting rid of your firearms entirely.

 

[Cavedweller]

I was considering going out of town for a long weekend and getting one of my daughter's college-aged friends to housesit for me. The potential house-sitter is 20 years old, reliable, and I've known her for years.

I'm imagining worst-case scenarios where someone breaks in and steals the guns. Or she somehow gets the crazy idea to break into my safe and mess around with the guns (totally not likely, but my imagination is bonkers). What laws apply and what are the risks?

If someone breaks in to your safe and steals your stuff they are guilty of a crime.

Whoa. Way to be judgmental about everything! Her primary job would have been to take care of the dog, but that seemed superfluous to the question so I simplified it to house-sitter.


Cool it with the misogyny.

Whoa. Cool it with the condescension. You asked a question of a mostly male audience. No need to dumb it down for us. Perhaps the term dog sitter would have been a more appropriate description of her responsibilities.

I know her AND her boyfriend and she would have had my permission to bring him over.

A perhaps more likely scenario is that she could very innocently and accidentally pass on information you don't want getting around.

^^^This. Several years ago one our neighbors was burglarized because their daughter brought a friend over who brought her boyfreind over who brought a friend of his over. During the conversation it came up that the family would be away for a couple of weeks on vacation. When they came home the house was empty. Even the car they left in the garage was stolen. It turned out that the friend of the boyfriend of the daughter's girlfriend was a meth user who lived a few blocks away. The cops eventually tracked him down and arrested him, but the moral of the story is never divulge sensitive information to anyone, regardless of how well known they are to you. Young people tend to be indiscrete and don't have the life experience to recognize the potential negative consequences of their indiscretions.

The safe is small GunVault hidden in a canvas bag in the back of my closet behind way too many shoes.

Addressing the worst case scenario - I can tell you that your safe is not hidden, no matter how deep in the bedroom closet or how many shoes you put it behind. The master bedroom is the first place thieves will look for valuables. They know this is where most people keep them. This is a well-known fact. As someone who has been burglarized in the past, I can tell you that they will search every inch of the closet. They will look under the bed. They will toss the bed and look between the mattresses. They will remove the drawers from your dresser and dump them. They may even take a drawer or 2 and use them to carry off their booty.

You would be much better off putting your safe in the laundry room or under the bathroom sink.

 

[Hueco]

Addressing the worst case scenario - I can tell you that your safe is not hidden, no matter how deep in the bedroom closet or how many shoes you put it behind. The master bedroom is the first place thieves will look for valuables. They know this is where most people keep them. This is a well-known fact. As someone who has been burglarized in the past, I can tell you that they will search every inch of the closet. They will look under the bed. They will toss the bed and look between the mattresses. They will remove the drawers from your dresser and dump them. They may even take a drawer or 2 and use them to carry off their booty.

You would be much better off putting your safe in the laundry room or under the bathroom sink.

I'm somewhat compelled to go get a small locked gun case (to fill with cat crap) and to store obviously. No direction like misdirection right?

 

[Alexx1401]

My question would be how far into the tape did she get.

LOL, that brought back a memory. Dad used to have one of the early laser disc players. Movie was on what looked like a CD but the size of the old vinyl albums. To watch a movie you had to watch about half, flip the thing over and see the rest. He loaned the machine to a guy with some movies. One of them was some old porn, Debbie does the entire town or such. Guy when he returns the stuff is going on about the porn, how it was horrible, no one should be allowed to sell this and such. Dad was not paying much attention until the guy described some of the scenes he found over the top. That was when he realized the guy had to watch the first side of the disc and turn it over to watch the rest to see some of what he was complaining about.

 

[40Garand]

One of them was some old porn, Debbie does the entire town or such.

Thank God it wasn't Wilfredo Does West Hollywood.

 

[Nosferatu]

Plan B:

Spread the handguns out on the coffee table, a couple loose rounds on the floor, rifles leaned up against the TV cabinet.

Next sprinkle in a few stacks of cash. Make sure the top bill on each stack is a Benji.

A few sandwich bags scattered about filled with a white powder, closed with a rubber band.

A 70's era briefcase closed, but unlatched, on the couch will add to the feng shui.

STRICT insturctions not to open the chest freezer in the garage. Make sure a generator is available and instructions provided in the event of a power outage.

Extra credit if the sitter doesn't flinch when she first sees the arrangement. Inquiries of future assistance in the activities displayed gets guaranteed a future sitting job.

When valuable things are left out in the open, people think they are being watched and are on their best behavior.

 

[40Garand]

Plan B:

Spread the handguns out on the coffee table, a couple loose rounds on the floor, rifles leaned up against the TV cabinet.

Next sprinkle in a few stacks of cash. Make sure the top bill on each stack is a Benji.

A few sandwich bags scattered about filled with a white powder, closed with a rubber band.

A 70's era briefcase closed, but unlatched, on the couch will add to the feng shui.

STRICT insturctions not to open the chest freezer in the garage. Make sure a generator is available and instructions provided in the event of a power outage.

Extra credit if the sitter doesn't flinch when she first sees the arrangement. Inquiries of future assistance in the activities displayed gets guaranteed a future sitting job.

When valuable things are left out in the open, people think they are being watched and are on their best behavior.

Careful, your bonkers is showing.