Hospitals being overwhelmed?

[Cavedweller]

Must be tards:

Physicians prescribing ivermectin for COVID-19 despite FDA warning

Some physicians continue to prescribe COVID-19 patients ivermectin, a drug most often used to treat parasitic worms in animals, despite warnings from the FDA that the drug should not be used to treat the virus.

www.beckershospitalreview.com

So, according to your source, there is a surge:

Kentucky receives help from federal medical team to combat COVID-19 surge

A federal medical team has arrived in Kentucky to support healthcare workers battling COVID-19 at St. Claire Regional Medical Center in Morehead, Gov. Andy Beshear said Sept. 5.

www.beckershospitalreview.com

Another tard?

Ohio doctor who prescribed deworming drug for Covid founded pro-ivermectin group

The group is “dedicated to developing highly effective treatment protocols to prevent the transmission of COVID-19 and to improve the outcomes for patients ill with the disease.”

www.google.com

This article isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/FLCCC-BIRD-Guardian-Elgazzar-Study-FINAL-1.pdf

A bit of controversy here:

"This isn't the first time that Kory and his colleagues at FLCCC have been accused of making unsubstantiated claims about ivermectin."

Frontiers Removes Controversial Ivermectin Paper Pre-Publication

A review article containing contested claims about the tropical medicine drug as a COVID-19 treatment was listed as "provisionally accepted" on the journal's website before being removed this week.

www.the-scientist.com

I always like to go one layer deeper.

 

[arakboss]

So, according to your source, there is a surge:

Kentucky receives help from federal medical team to combat COVID-19 surge

A federal medical team has arrived in Kentucky to support healthcare workers battling COVID-19 at St. Claire Regional Medical Center in Morehead, Gov. Andy Beshear said Sept. 5.

www.beckershospitalreview.com

This article isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

A bit of controversy here:

"This isn't the first time that Kory and his colleagues at FLCCC have been accused of making unsubstantiated claims about ivermectin."

Frontiers Removes Controversial Ivermectin Paper Pre-Publication

A review article containing contested claims about the tropical medicine drug as a COVID-19 treatment was listed as "provisionally accepted" on the journal's website before being removed this week.

www.the-scientist.com

I always like to go one layer deeper.

If you are somebody who is currently sick with covid at home, you may want to take a chance on Ivermectin helping ease symptoms. The cost is low and risk also appears to be very low. Finding a doctor to prescribe it for you might be a more difficult task. Or you could wait until the Oxford Principal Study is completed a few months from now.

 

[Cavedweller]

If you are somebody who is currently sick with covid at home, you may want to take a chance on Ivermectin helping ease symptoms. The cost is low and risk also appears to be very low. Finding a doctor to prescribe it for you might be a more difficult. Or you could wait until the Oxford Principal Study is completed a few months from now.

I don't disagree. I would take Ivermectin over a ventilator any day. Or chloroquine for that matter (over a ventilator).

ETA: but you don't need a doctor to prescribe it. It's OTC. You just won't get it in most hospitals, I guess.

 

[arakboss]

I don't disagree. I would take Ivermectin over a ventilator any day. Or chloroquine for that matter.

In the beginning of this pandemic when hospitals were filling up we saw Doctors trying all types of experimental therapies. These were not backed by stringent randomized studies. They were just throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck. The risk from Ivermectin seems to be very low. I might take it.


Edit: here is a list of drugs/therapies with EUA for covid19 treatment. I would be curious to know how much these cost compared to Ivermectin and how many of them can be administered at home?

Emergency Use Authorization

Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) information, and list of all current EUAs

www.fda.gov

First drug on the FDA EUA list.

Failure to warn: Hundreds died while taking an arthritis drug, but nobody alerted patients

A STAT investigation found that the risks of Actemra, a rheumatoid arthritis drug, might be greater than patients are led to believe.

www.statnews.com

Cost of that drug






Cost of second therapy on the list:

Sotrovimab:

 

[arakboss]

This is a common theme for these drugs/remedies the FDA has approved for emergency use authorization in treating covid 19

"They are investigational drugs and are not approved for any indication"


Yet the FDA implies that Ivermectin is only for horses and cows.

 

[arakboss]

In the beginning of this pandemic when hospitals were filling up we saw Doctors trying all types of experimental therapies. These were not backed by stringent randomized studies. They were just throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck. The risk from Ivermectin seems to be very low. I might take it.


Edit: here is a list of drugs/therapies with EUA for covid19 treatment. I would be curious to know how much these cost compared to Ivermectin and how many of them can be administered at home?

Emergency Use Authorization

Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) information, and list of all current EUAs

www.fda.gov

First drug on the FDA EUA list.

Failure to warn: Hundreds died while taking an arthritis drug, but nobody alerted patients

A STAT investigation found that the risks of Actemra, a rheumatoid arthritis drug, might be greater than patients are led to believe.

www.statnews.com

Cost of that drug



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Cost of second therapy on the list:

Sotrovimab:

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I am seeing a trend here.

Cost of Ivermectin.

 

[arakboss]

Unfortunately no.

The problems start with the test tube "in vitro" study. To have any effect the Ivermectin dose would be near-lethal to humans.

Then the Egyptian study was retracted for faked data, and the Indian study made gross statistical errors.

Remove those and the "meta analysis" by Bryant et al falls apart.

The rest are all with low power and few patients.

we cant use studies like this to direct treatment in medicine. The studies have to be of higher quality. This meta analysis will be used for decades when teaching medicine to students on how a meta analysis can be garbage if the studies it tries to combine are garbage. I learned that rule nearly 30 years ago in medical school.


Absolutely not. If they are being intimidated its by other physicians like me who have training on how to read a study and know what is involved in picking a high quality treatment with adequate scientific support. If any doctor is recommending ivermectin for covid right now, I will be not politically correct and call them a retard to their face.


And remember merck - big big pharma - makes ivermectin. They would LOVE for it to be approved. It would make them BILLIONS. If everyone says big pharma is running the show, why is big pharma not pushing Ivermectin? Because even big pharma knows it is BS.

Even merck does not recommend Ivermectin

Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic - Merck.com

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of...

www.merck.com

Tell me why a company is telling doctors not to use it when it would cost them BILLIONS?

"And remember merck - big big pharma - makes ivermectin. They would LOVE for it to be approved. It would make them BILLIONS"

Don't worry Merck will make plenty of money and many other big pharma companies will too. You should know that better than others:

Estimated costs/course were: ivermectin ($0.55), molnupiravir ($255.57),

Merck Announces Supply Agreement with U.S. Government for Molnupiravir, an Investigational Oral Antiviral Candidate for Treatment of Mild to Moderate COVID-19 - Merck.com

U.S. government commits to purchase approximately 1.7 million courses of Molnupiravir upon issuance of Emergency Use Authorization or approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today announced it has entered into a...

www.merck.com

 

[arakboss]

The people in the FDA are not all looking out for us. Generic drugs like Ivermectin don't bring in the big bucks for Big Pharma who often hire on those who scratch their backs. This is not news and it shouldn't be news that the longer this covid BS last the more money that will be made by Big Pharma and potentially current employees of the FDA.


People gobbled up mRNA based vaccines. Imagine if they had introduced them for a normal flu shot. I am guessing there would have been a lot less willing participants.

@Stomper is right, it's about the money now. Welfare of the people is at best a secondary concern.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

 

[Member 52301]

Ya but, Alex Jones says this is all false!

Do people actually listen to that donkey?!

Cate

 

[Member 52301]

ARAKBOSS,

Please check your messages.

Thank you.

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[arakboss]

I think Ivermectin will finally get some mainstream love in the next 6 months. Big Pharma won't like it but there is a entire world out there that doesn't have access to $2000 experimental treatments.

 

[Certaindeaf]

If I remember correctly, hospitals have been showcased by the media, non-stop, as being overwhelmed for almost two years now. To me, it's very similar to how when teachers go on strike, it's all about how overwhelmed they are and it's all about the children, not at all about creating a crisis and holding hostages and doing real damage for money and political power.

 

[EHJ]

The AFP fact check on ivermectin use in Japan accidentally makes the case for why Joe Rogan was right to try it

twitchy.com

Japanese medical chairman doubles down on ivermectin support after early calls went ignored - LifeSite

Tokyo Medical Association chairman Haruo Ozaki reiterated this month that ivermectin should be widely used and said that his early recommendations have not been heeded in Japan.

www.lifesitenews.com

Japan: Moderna Vax Is Out, Ivermectin Treatment Is In

I wonder if Moderna had the same kind of BS contract Pfizer did? ##### From the article on BBC News, August 25, 2021: Japan suspends 1.6 million Moderna doses over contamination fears The health mi…

verumetinventa.wordpress.com

Japan suspends 1.6 mln doses of Moderna shot after contamination reports

Japan suspended the use of 1.63 million doses of Moderna Inc's COVID-19 vaccine on Thursday, more than a week after the domestic distributor received reports of contaminants in some vials.

www.reuters.com

Last week, my little cousin died, unexpectedly - in his sleep. He was only 25. No maladies whatsoever. Healthy as an ox.
Autopsy showed he had an enlarged heart. Probable cause - cardiomegaly/myocarditis and pericarditis.

He had just days earlier received his second vax jab.

More young adults than expected have reported heart inflammation following Covid-19 vaccination

The condition, called myocarditis, is usually mild, but a handful of patients remain hospitalized.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[arakboss]

The AFP fact check on ivermectin use in Japan accidentally makes the case for why Joe Rogan was right to try it

twitchy.com

Japanese medical chairman doubles down on ivermectin support after early calls went ignored - LifeSite

Tokyo Medical Association chairman Haruo Ozaki reiterated this month that ivermectin should be widely used and said that his early recommendations have not been heeded in Japan.

www.lifesitenews.com

Japan: Moderna Vax Is Out, Ivermectin Treatment Is In

I wonder if Moderna had the same kind of BS contract Pfizer did? ##### From the article on BBC News, August 25, 2021: Japan suspends 1.6 million Moderna doses over contamination fears The health mi…

verumetinventa.wordpress.com

Japan suspends 1.6 mln doses of Moderna shot after contamination reports

Japan suspended the use of 1.63 million doses of Moderna Inc's COVID-19 vaccine on Thursday, more than a week after the domestic distributor received reports of contaminants in some vials.

www.reuters.com

Last week, my little cousin died, unexpectedly - in his sleep. He was only 25. No maladies whatsoever. Healthy as an ox.
Autopsy showed he had an enlarged heart. Probable cause - cardiomegaly/myocarditis and pericarditis.

He had just days earlier received his second vax jab.

More young adults than expected have reported heart inflammation following Covid-19 vaccination

The condition, called myocarditis, is usually mild, but a handful of patients remain hospitalized.

www.nbcnews.com

Sorry to hear about your cousin. That sucks to go so young and so unexpectedly.

 

[Longwalkhome]

This is too long for most to read but gives valid facts and good opinions. Israel is far ahead of us in the jab and this has where they are today.

Twitter @RanIsraeli ~ Models show Pfizer's efficacy less than 40%. Deaths: Unvaccinated = 35.9%, Dose 1 = 2.3%, Dose 1 + 2 = 51.6%, Dose 1 + 2 + 3 = 10.2%

freerepublic.com

Our hospitals are filling up because the vaccines don't work if what's being shown is true.

 

[Longwalkhome]

Just reading that hospitals are changing the parameters of what is an available ICU bed. It must be fully staffed to be available and since staff is quitting over forced vaccinations the beds are no longer considered staffed.

Looks like a created problem by forcing vaccines.

Guess we will see as the truth comes out.

 

[EHJ]

Sorry to hear about your cousin. That sucks to go so young and so unexpectedly.

Thanks. Yup. No signs at all.
Didn't even remember the same correlations in the articles until just a couple days ago.

 

[Longwalkhome]

It's worth checking into that there may be a chance funeral expenses will be paid for by the government if a family member dies of covid.

Short read and worth every minute.

RFK, Jr.: Induced COVID-19 fears could result in 'complete obliteration of critical thinking'

"All of these mechanics appear to be deliberately manipulated to put our population in a state of fear," Kennedy said at a conference hosted by the Ron Paul Institute.

justthenews.com

 

[Mikej]

Many thanks for your input on this @bolus

 

[arakboss]

Slovakia Becomes the First EU Nation to Formally Approve Ivermectin for Both Prophylaxis and Treatment for COVID-19 Patients

The Slovakia Republic’s Minister of Health has formerly registered Ivermectin as an approved prophylaxis and treatment for SARS-CoV-2, the virus behind COVID-19. In breaking news, the authorization occurred yesterday as doctors received the news that they could proceed with formally authorized...

trialsitenews.com

Larger studies are in process on Ivermectin and other cheap drugs.

McMaster researchers leading international study to test three widely available drugs for early COVID-19 treatment

The study will evaluate the drugs’ effectiveness in preventing COVID-19 disease progression, and researchers say the results could be known in as little as two to three months.

brighterworld.mcmaster.ca