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I am confused as to which part will be the frame or receiver on platforms that can be either a rifle or a handgun?Does HB2005 affect handgun slides as "uppers"?
Those definitions were removed in 2005 C, the latest version. That is referred to as 2005 engrossed. You find that version at the upper left of the bill overview page.I am confused as to which part will be the frame or receiver on platforms that can be either a rifle or a handgun?
HB2005 has this definition for Frame of handgun.
(5) "Frame" means the part of a handgun, or variant of a handgun, that provides housing or a structure for the primary energized component designed to hold back the hammer, striker, bolt or similar element, prior to initiation of the firing sequence, even if pins or other attachments are required to attach the component to the housing or structure.
HB2005 has this definition for Receiver of long gun.
(13) "Receiver" means the part of a rifle, shotgun or projectile weapon other than a
handgun, or a variant of a rifle, shotgun or projectile weapon other than a handgun, that provides housing or a structure for the primary component designed to block or seal the breech prior to initiation of the firing sequence, even if pins or other attachments are required to connect the component to the housing or structure.
In the case of an AR that is configured as a pistol, the lower would be the defined frame. If the AR was configured as a rifle or shotgun the upper would be the defined receiver?
If I am understanding HB2005's definitions correctly than an AR lower without serialization could legally be used in a rifle but not in a pistol. The upper would be required to be serialized in a rifle or shotgun. I realize this is not how the Feds view it but HB2005 has it's own definitions laid out for us.
That was very generous of them to provide that exemption for uppers. Hopefully the retailers will get the memo on this and not cut us off.Those definitions were removed in 2005 C, the latest version. That is referred to as 2005 engrossed. You find that version at the upper left of the bill overview page.
Instead of just a copied paragraph of the regulation, they now cite the regulation itself, i.e., 27CFR 478.12, which is the ATF definition that contains the carve-out for certain firearms. If you scroll down, you'll see that, for AR style firearms, the lower is the receiver, and not the upper. Others are specifically called out as well.
I have no idea if it was ignorance, arrogance, or hubris that caused them to have the partial definitions in the previous versions. I suspect it was a combination of all three.
ETA, to further clarify: Look at page (2), 18 of 2005 engrossed: (18)(a) "Unfinished frame or receiver" means a forging, casting, printing, extrusion, machined body or similar item that: (A) Is designed to or may readily be completed, assembled or otherwise converted to function as a frame or receiver; or (B) Is marketed or sold to the public to be completed, assembled or otherwise converted to function as a frame or receiver.
That little ditty above is a departure from the federal regulation i.e.,
Example 4 to paragraph (c)—Not a receiver:
A billet or blank of an AR–15 variant receiver without critical interior areas having been indexed, machined, or formed that is not sold, distributed, or possessed with instructions, jigs, templates, equipment, or tools such that it may readily be completed is not a receiver.
Example 5 to paragraph (c)—Not a receiver:
A flat blank of an AK variant receiver without laser cuts or indexing that is not sold, distributed, or possessed with instructions, jigs, templates, equipment, or tools is not a receiver, as a person cannot readily fold the flat to provide housing or a structure for the primary component designed to block or seal the breech prior to initiation of the firing sequence.
Look at Section 5 of 2005C. (1)(a) prohibits import, offer for sale, or sell of the unfinished receiver. Toward the end of Section 5, we have the prohibition of possession: Act. (2)(a) A person may not knowingly possess an unfinished frame or receiver that is not serialized as provided in subsection (1)(a)(B) of this section, unless: ...
You now have the references and explanations available to all of us.
The exemption is in the CFR. The authors of HB2005 omitted it the first time.That was very generous of them to provide that exemption for uppers. Hopefully the retailers will get the memo on this and not cut us off.
2002 is the abortion one, supposedly amended to remove a lot of things that it had before.Which one was measure 2002? 2005 was the "ghost gun" bill, right?
Another proof that this state is a rotting sewer, and the state lawmakers are the rats riding the turds.OFF newsletter on passage of HB 2005. The fight will continue, but only if we have the will to do so. We can complain on the internet or actually do something.
It's Over.
06.25.2023
Today is constitutional "sine die". The official end of the legislative session.
Yesterday, thanks to the Senate Republicans who returned to the floor to grease the skids for the Democrats, the anti-gun "paramilitary" bill HB 2572 was passed and now heads off to Governor Tina for her signature.
On the floor for this one last humiliation were Senators Anderson, Bonham, Findley, Girod, Knopp, Robinson, DB Smith and Weber.
We have no idea why Robinson and Bonham came back for this as they were part of the walkout and are now victims of Ballot Measure 113.
As you know, Brock-Smith and Anderson have been there virtually every day to assure themselves the opportunity to run again, something that, barring a successful lawsuit, most Republican Senators won't be able to do.
HB 2572 is an outrageous attack on gun rights and a gift to violent left wing extremists. That was never hidden as the bill moved through the legislature. The promoters of the bill noted in their comments that it was aimed at "III%ers" and "Proud Boys" while pointing out (to appease the ACLU) that it will not affect the favored tactics of Marxist rioters. The way the bill was crafted it was clear that antifa would not be targeted by this transparently ugly legislation.
Joining the far left to pass this bill were Republican House Reps Kevin Mannix and Charlie Conrad.
Republican Kim Wallan voted against it, but only because she did not think its penalties were harsh enough.
Mannix's anti-gun record goes back decades. Conrad is new at this game.
It should be noted that when Conrad ran for office he defeated a rock solid conservative, Nicole DeGraff ,by less than 100 votes. It should also be noted that DeGraff was torpedoed by the House Republican "leader" (Vikki Iverson) and Iverson's husband, who told DeGraff that she would never be supported because she accepted a donation from OFF's Political Action Committee. Iverson's PAC gave Conrad $10,000.00 to help defeat DeGraff.
(Conrad refused to respond to OFF's candidate survey.)
So the House Republican "leader" help finance a candidate who not only supports more gun control but was the only Republican to vote for HB 2002, which the Republican Senators claimed was their main reason for their failed walkout.
There is no way the Democrats could have forged a better deal for themselves than Republican Senate Leader Tim Knopp forged for them. First, get the most conservative Senators to stay out long enough to become subject to the Measure 113 rules denying them a political future and then give away the store. It was brilliant. We hope the Democrats have prepared a proper reward for Knopp.
We have to admit, Tim had us going there for a while. After having proven himself to be a complete sell out in previous sessions, he appeared to have received a spine transplant and led what could have been an amazingly successful strategy to stop the Democrats demented agenda. And we encouraged people to thank him and the Senators who walked away from this sideshow.
Well, as George Bush once said "There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on—shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again."
But it won't matter. Wherever Tim winds up (and he will wind up somewhere) his chances of winning his own district again are pretty slim even in the event he's allowed to run again. So really, why should he care if he shot down so many of his colleagues?
Have no fear however, two of the worst Republican Senators, Anderson and Brock Smith are safe. They dutifully showed up day after day. No doubt they are praying for short memory voters.
Meanwhile over at the House, while some House members stayed off the floor for the final concurrence vote on HB 2005, the criminalization of personally manufactured firearms, enough of them came to provide quorum and guarantee it would pass. And because of some confusion caused by a massive, hours long website crash, even the ones who didn't come to the floor were given excused absences meaning that once again, they risked NOTHING. And of course, we…got nothing.
Now thanks to the almost incomprehensible cowardice of Republican House Members, Oregonians face 5 years in prison for each personally manufactured firearm in their possession. Never mind that courts have already found this kind of law to be unconstitutional, this is Oregon and we will find a way to prosecute you.
Apparently the official position of the Republican House Reps is that this is all no big deal. In fact, not only are they proud of the deal they cut, they want you to be proud of it too. You can hear a half hour of nausea inducing self congratulation in this meeting that the "leadership," and Vikki Iverson's husband, had with Republican precinct committee people. Why was Iverson's husband on the call? Well he's the guy who threatens candidates who accept our support. He's also one of the geniuses behind the "Oregon 13" website where you could buy a tee shirt or coffee mug to celebrate the staggering failure of the Senate walkout. That site was not responding last time we checked it. But some folks did get tee shirts, and a least one of them registered their discontent thusly.
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On at least one amusing note, the legislature also passed HB 3443. And this one did make us smile.
The summary of the bill says : "Prohibits landlords from terminating lease or taking other specified actions due to status of tenant as victim of bias crime."
The oh-so-compassionate left demanded this bill to protect people who were victims of "bias crimes."
But our favorite parts are Sections 8 and 16, which allow victims of bias crimes, and oddly, people who man bias crime "hotlines" to become part of Oregon's "Address Confidentiality Program". This program has historically protected people whose lives were in danger due to threats of domestic violence.
Well try as we may, the compassion Nazis just were not interested when we repeatedly pointed out to them that persons in this program are prohibited from purchasing firearms because they have no ID with their actual address on it.
So, yessireee, they can now break a lease but they can't protect themselves. Another deal so brilliant you would think it was dreamed up by Republican leadership. It was no surprise that Senators Anderson, Knopp, and Findley and Weber voted for it.
On the House side it got the nod from (of course) Charlie Conrad, Helfrich, Owens and Greg Smith. James Heib voted yes but attempted to change his vote to "no." The Democrats refused to allow him to change his vote. It would not have changed the outcome. It was just Democrats being the vindictive, petty, jerks they are. (Aided daily by Republican cowards.)
All in all, a long disgraceful display. But if if makes you feel better the budgets now include items to promote legalized sex trafficking and a "state run" bank. The committee studying a "state bank" must include someone experienced in the marijuana business. No, we are not making this up. May it only be as successful as the state's efforts to mail unemployment checks during covid.
We will have more in the coming days, but we want to remind you that the very same Republicans House Reps who allowed HB 2005 to pass have promised to sue to stop it. Let us not let them forget that. Ever. This one is on them, period.
Theoretic workaround; a person could ship an 80% receiver to another state, finish it there, then import that firearm into Oregon?80% Arms will no longer ship to Oregon. From their web site:
SHIPPING RESTRICTIONS:
This item is restricted from shipping to California, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, Washington D.C, Washington, Hawaii, Colorado, City of Philadelphia Pennsylvania, Maryland, Illinois, Oregon, and Rhode Island
SECTION 4. (1)(a) A person may not knowingly offer for sale, sell or transfer a firearm unless the firearm has been imprinted with a serial number by a federally licensed firearm manufacturer, importer or dealer, or a gunsmith with a federal firearms license, in accordance with federal law.Theoretic workaround; a person could ship an 80% receiver to another state, finish it there, then import that firearm into Oregon?
So have it serialized in another state?SECTION 4. (1)(a) A person may not knowingly offer for sale, sell or transfer a firearm unless the firearm has been imprinted with a serial number by a federally licensed firearm manufacturer, importer or dealer, or a gunsmith with a federal firearms license, in accordance with federal law.
(b) A person may not knowingly possess a firearm unless the firearm has been imprinted with a serial number by a federally licensed firearm manufacturer, importer or dealer, or a gunsmith with a federal firearms license, in accordance with federal law.
You can have it serialized here in Oregon. You just cannot possess it without a serial number after 1 September 2024. All firearms produced after October 1968 must have a serial number and be entered into the system.So have it serialized in another state?