Oregon HB 2005 4-11-2023

[arakboss]

What's the latest status on hb 2005?

 

[winners58]

What's the latest status on hb 2005?

Third reading and vote 5/2 expected to pass along party line vote

HB2005 2023 Regular Session - Oregon Legislative Information System

olis.oregonlegislature.gov

 

[arakboss]

It looks to me like serialized incomplete (stripped for example) frames and receivers will no longer be eligible for no response releases.

(18)(a) "Unfinished frame or receiver" means a forging, casting, printing, extrusion, ma-
chined body or similar item that:
(A) Is designed to or may readily be completed, assembled or otherwise converted to
function as a frame or receiver; or
(B) Is marketed or sold to the public to be completed, assembled or otherwise converted
to function as a frame or receiver.



c) The dealer may not transfer the firearm or unfinished frame or receiver unless the dealer
receives a unique approval number from the department and...

 

[arakboss]

If HB 2005 passes it's going to be up to the FFLs in this State to help out those who wish to continue legally building homemade firearms. Hopefully many FFLs will do so.

 

[PiratePast40]

If HB 2005 passes it's going to be up to the FFLs in this State to help out those who wish to continue legally building homemade firearms. Hopefully many FFLs will do so.

It's not just home made firearms. It's ALL existing and future AR platform firearms. ALL must have the upper and lower receivers engraved with a legitimate serial number IAW ATF regulations AND be registered with OSP. Not sure what you mean by FFLs helping out. FFLs, including gunsmiths, don't get any special treatment under HB2005 except that they can possess unserialized components if they are going to be registering them. They can't sell them unless they mark and record IAW 2005.

Doesn't matter if they are 80% lowers, stripped or complete upper or lower receivers, or complete firearms. ALL are considered to be firearms IAW HB 2005.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Do we know if SAF, GOA, FPC and OFF have lawsuits ready to file against HB 2005?

 

[arakboss]

It's not just home made firearms. It's ALL existing and future AR platform firearms. ALL must have the upper and lower receivers engraved with a legitimate serial number IAW ATF regulations AND be registered with OSP. Not sure what you mean by FFLs helping out. FFLs, including gunsmiths, don't get any special treatment under HB2005 except that they can possess unserialized components if they are going to be registering them. They can't sell them unless they mark and record IAW 2005.

Doesn't matter if they are 80% lowers, stripped or complete upper or lower receivers, or complete firearms. ALL are considered to be firearms IAW HB 2005.

HB 2005 allows for FFLs to apply serial numbers to existing and potentially newly made unserialized frames and receivers, that is where the FFLs can help us out.


"SECTION 4. (1)(a) A person may not knowingly offer for sale, sell or transfer a firearm
unless the firearm has been imprinted with a serial number by a federally licensed firearm
manufacturer, importer or dealer, or a gunsmith with a federal firearms license, in accord-
ance with federal law.
(b) A person may not knowingly possess a firearm unless the firearm has been imprinted
with a serial number by a federally licensed firearm manufacturer, importer or dealer, or a
gunsmith with a federal firearms license, in accordance with federal law."

 

[PiratePast40]

HB 2005 allows for FFLs to apply serial numbers to existing and potentially newly made unserialized frames and receivers, that is where the FFLs can help us out.


"SECTION 4. (1)(a) A person may not knowingly offer for sale, sell or transfer a firearm
unless the firearm has been imprinted with a serial number by a federally licensed firearm
manufacturer, importer or dealer, or a gunsmith with a federal firearms license, in accord-
ance with federal law.
(b) A person may not knowingly possess a firearm unless the firearm has been imprinted
with a serial number by a federally licensed firearm manufacturer, importer or dealer, or a
gunsmith with a federal firearms license, in accordance with federal law."

I guess that could be considered "helping out" the same way as providing a bullet to bite on while amputating an arm or leg without anesthesia, or providing reuseable velcro BOHICA ankle straps.

 

[arakboss]

I giess that could be considered "helping out" the same way as providing a bullet to bite on while amputating an arm or leg without anesthesia, or providing reuseable velcro BOHICA ankle straps.

That's the spirit.

 

[Aero Denezol]

People are not going to serialize their upper receivers. I guess we'll all be in jail together.

And FWIW, this does nothing for school safety.

 

[jayR]

Watch the treason live -> https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/mediaplayer/?clientID=4879615486&eventID=2023051003

 

[zomie]

Watch the treason live -> https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/mediaplayer/?clientID=4879615486&eventID=2023051003

Depressing ... why hasn't the state just merged with California at this point?

 

[s1xty7]

. . . And 2005 B passed the house 35 to 24. Well, that's unfortunate but not unexpected.

 

[Beeble_B]

Just out of curiosity, are they doing anything about Lower Parts kits, BCG's, stocks, handguards, and so on like Washington? This is from the PSA website on what they cannot sell to Washington:

 

[JJE76]

Great I have a Stacatto getting to my FFL tomorrow.

 

[solv3nt]

Lame

 

[jayR]

Here's the votes:

 

[Koda]

Another confusing law to sort thru and trying to process it.
If this passes will all owned ARs require serialization of the upper?
Is there a grandfather clause in the law?

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Another confusing law to sort thru and trying to process it.
If this passes will all owned ARs require serialization of the upper?
Is there a grandfather clause in the law?

This is meant to halt the sale and importation of uppers in Oregon.

 

[Koda]

This is meant to halt the sale and importation of uppers in Oregon.

so I better get that new upper now then...

does the law go immediately into effect?