Guy just shoots off in the front yard

[saw2]

No, it has nothing to do with being pro-immigration. It is just that being an immigrant, legal or not, did not cause this crime any more than the AR15 the shooter used caused the crime.

An individual person did this, not his birthplace, skin color, legal status, language or culture.


Or to put it another way, since the victims were all immigrants, you might as well say that no one would have been shot if they hadn't come to the US. That's how faulty the logic of all this is.

Did an illegal immigrant not commit this crime? So you're saying he did not also cause the crime? What did not cause the crime was if the victims being illegal or legal. Also I'm willing to say the "illegal" immigrant slimeball who committed this heinous crime did not give one damn if his victims were illegal or legal.

Bottom line is he committed and caused this crime. And yes the crime would not have been committed in Texas if he wouldn't have been in the US illegally.

 

[Member 53328]

Did an illegal immigrant not commit this crime? So you're saying he did not also cause the crime? What did not cause the crime was if the victims being illegal or legal. Also I'm willing to say the "illegal" immigrant slimeball who committed this heinous crime did not give one damn if his victims were illegal or legal.

Bottom line is he committed and caused this crime. And yes the crime would not have been committed in Texas if he wouldn't have been in the US illegally.

Don't waist your time/breath/energy. The member you're engaging with is always right. Never wrong. Facts don't matter. It's more about emotion and feelings.

 

[ma96782]

Awwww.....Come On Man.
We need to allow more of them into America. They should have a legal path to US Citizenship.







Is that you Brandon?

RE : Post #213
Not once, not twice, not three times, not four times.....but five times. WTF?

MSN

Aloha, Mark

 

[Keepmsharp]

America needs sentry guns at the boarder

 

[titsonritz]

Is a-hole dead yet?

 

[Knobgoblin]

America needs sentry guns at the boarder

 

[Member 53328]

Is a-hole dead yet?

One can dream.

 

[Hawaiian]

Do some racial/ethnic groups commit a disproportional amount of crimes? Yes. Just look at the makeup of those who are incarcerated in our prison system. However it is not due to the pigment color of their skin. It is mostly due to the cultural environment in which they grew up. Poverty or growing up poor and doing without what many others have breeds resentment and anger. Not seeing a way out or a promising future to look forward to creates despair. They end up saying F it and get what they want any way they can. All of their friends in their neighborhood are doing it so they join in and enter a life of crime. Drugs/Alcohol also plays a part as that is a way to escape the despair they are experiencing.

Our current legal/judicial system is only compounding the problem by removing the determent of any form of punishment for those who commit crimes.

On immigration, it would be nice to be able to open our boarders and rescue the worlds disadvantaged poor. Those thinking this way are living in a fantasy world. The reality is that we simply do not have the funds to do so. We are not even able to feed our own poor kids adequately. Money does not grow on trees, however it seems like our government believes it does.

To reduce the amount of crime in the future, we need to go into the poor neighborhoods and open vocational training schools to offer the young a path out of their current situation. Give them a future other than a choice between a life of crime and flipping burgers. Turn them into productive tax paying citizens. The program will pay for itself by reducing the welfare rolls.

However our liberal politicians won't do that as they need to keep them dependent on 'free money' to keep their voter base. If they are no longer dependent on the 'free money' and are paying taxes, they will change how they vote.

Sorry to say that they way our government is acting and the way the current generation of citizens are voting I expect things to get worse, much worse.

 

[ma96782]

RE: Speaking of the "Un-documented Immigrant"

Awwwww........Come On Man.
THEY come for a chance to start anew. Away from the violence, threats, gangs, illegal drugs, political corruption, war, etc.... A chance, for an education, jobs, advanced medical treatment, etc.... No money, no problem. It's FREE (courtesy of those who work). Yup, Americans should/could be more WELCOMING towards the Un-Documented (even the CRAZY ones). And, they should be allowed to VOTE too.











Is that you Brandon?

Aloha, Mark


BTW....FYI......

 

[Yarome]

Is a-hole dead yet?

If it's done right... we'll never know... but he certainly won't kill again.




The 3-S rule is proven 100% effective against all forms of henious crime.
Just sayin......

 

[Kruel J]

Let's suppose this was an option. For it to be an option, you would have to want those 13% to disappear so it would lower the crime rate. But the crimes of that group weren't evenly distributed, so you find out that all the crime that affects the not-13%, like yourself, didn't actually change.


Since you dont care about those 13%, you don't care about the crime they experience, just the crime your xenophobia means is "yours". So you didn't get anything out of it. Your still just as likely to die in the rampant white-on-white murder that plagues you.

But you did get rid of those 13% that you wanted gone.


And we can go through the same process with Jews or Asians for all their sins against white America, too.

I didn't read anywhere in his post where he stated he wanted anyone gone. He was using the stats as an example.

 

[Yarome]

Yeah... didn't you know? If you desire criminals to be held accountable for illegal acts and willful violations of the law.. you're just "xenophobic", "racist" and hate your fellow man.

SOP irrational rebuttals to common sense facts from that side of the isle so... what's the point in entertaining them?

 

[solv3nt]

Let's suppose this was an option. For it to be an option, you would have to want those 13% to disappear so it would lower the crime rate. But the crimes of that group weren't evenly distributed, so you find out that all the crime that affects the not-13%, like yourself, didn't actually change.

Yeah... didn't you know? If you desire criminals to be held accountable for illegal acts and willful violations of the law.. you're just "xenophobic", "racist" and hate your fellow man.

SOP irrational rebuttals to common sense facts from that side of the isle so... what's the point in entertaining them?

This is one of the many places that your theories are wrong. You are correct that the crimes aren't typically eventually distributed, and that they're skewed towards the same race. But you miss the one takeaway, crime still decreases in the US and the gun grabbers don't have the same statistics on their side to drive their agenda.

 

[RX-79G]

Did an illegal immigrant not commit this crime? So you're saying he did not also cause the crime? What did not cause the crime was if the victims being illegal or legal. Also I'm willing to say the "illegal" immigrant slimeball who committed this heinous crime did not give one damn if his victims were illegal or legal.

Bottom line is he committed and caused this crime. And yes the crime would not have been committed in Texas if he wouldn't have been in the US illegally.

It sounds like youre saying illegal immigration and murder should both be illegal. If they were, it would have stopped the crime from happening.

 

[RX-79G]

Yeah... didn't you know? If you desire criminals to be held accountable for illegal acts and willful violations of the law.. you're just "xenophobic", "racist" and hate your fellow man.

SOP irrational rebuttals to common sense facts from that side of the isle so... what's the point in entertaining them?

Who said illegal immigrants or murderers shouldn't be held to account?


Not me.


I just think talking about the crime like it resulted from illegal immigration is loony. We have these kinds of murders all the time from people that belong here.

 

[Kruel J]

It sounds like youre saying illegal immigration and murder should both be illegal. If they were, it would have stopped the crime from happening.

Are you hoping your world salads and inaccurate posts will confuse people or are you just doing some good ol fashioned gaslighting?

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Are you hoping your world salads and inaccurate posts will confuse people or are you just doing some good ol fashioned gaslighting?

Serious question: Is it anymore word salad and gaslighting than this?

There's a particular racial demographic in the US that is about 13% of the population, but certain members of that group are responsible for about 50% of the violent crime in the US

 

[Member 53328]

Are you hoping your world salads and inaccurate posts will confuse people or are you just doing some good ol fashioned gaslighting?

Some people just enjoy hearing their own voice….

It's like nails on a chalk board.

 

[Kruel J]

Serious question: Is it anymore word salad and gaslighting than this?

There's a particular racial demographic in the US that is about 13% of the population, but certain members of that group are responsible for about 50% of the violent crime in the US

Is the information posted inaccurate? Last I heard these stats are fairly accurate. I don't see any racist tones to the post either. So.......

 

[solv3nt]

Serious question: Is it anymore word salad and gaslighting than this?

There's a particular racial demographic in the US that is about 13% of the population, but certain members of that group are responsible for about 50% of the violent crime in the US

Your statistic is wrong. The 13% minority doesn't make up 50% of violent crime. The 13% minority make up 26% of violent crime, which comes out to more than 50% of what it should be. You should double check your statistics.