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Glock 33 vs Glock 36 for Backpacking

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by Quackerbacker, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. Quackerbacker

    Quackerbacker Springfield, OR Active Member

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    Having a tough time deciding between these two pistols.

    I'm all out-fitted for reloading so that would help mitigate some of the costs of 357 sig. I think the 36 is a bit thinner but the 33 is smaller in length & height. I'd like to get my hands on a 30s but i think the grip may be a bit wide for iwb carry, which i use about 25% of the time.

    For the most part i carry when i'm out on hikes, backpacking, fishing etc. Maybe once a week or so i carry in town but it's usually to test a new carry method or if i'm commuting on my bike late at night, or going to the theater (i admit i have an irrational fear of the theater and need my security blanket :)).

    I do carry in Alaska a couple times a year, but i usually borrow my little brother in law's G20 but on occasion i'm stuck with my piddly 45. :) Honestly i have no idea which cartridge would be best against bigger dangerous game. Neither seem great, but either are better than throwing rocks i guess.
     
  2. 2Wheels4Ever

    2Wheels4Ever Central Oregon Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    Thinner=more comfort in my experience. I would go the 33. Then you can also just get a new barrel and shoot .40sw and 9mm.
     
  3. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    I've never seen a dangerous critter in all of my years playing in the woods of Oregon. I'm more concerned with the two legged critters than the any at the top of the food chain.
     
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  4. spookshack

    spookshack Forest Grove, OR Life Member Lifetime Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    The 36 for comfort and the 33 for capacity.
    I would probably give the 33 the nod for your stated activities though.
     
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  5. Quackerbacker

    Quackerbacker Springfield, OR Active Member

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    True enough solv3nt. I've yet to chase a black bear that didn't run away from me (in Oregon).

    Still. Odds are slim that anything will happen until it does. Then the chances are 100% and you fight with what you brung...
     
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  6. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    Yup, I should have followed that with, carry whatever is comfortable enough that you will always carry it. I usually carry a 5" 1911, but I need deep carry at work, so I've been carrying a Block26.
     
  7. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    For backpacking as the title says? Or a do-all, as you said in post #1?..

    "For the most part i carry when i'm out on hikes, backpacking, fishing etc. Maybe once a week or so i carry in town but it's usually to test a new carry method or if i'm commuting on my bike late at night, or going to the theater (i admit i have an irrational fear of the theater and need my security blanket :))."

    I guess it depends on what you want to do with the gun while you're out on extended backpacking trips.
     
  8. Quackerbacker

    Quackerbacker Springfield, OR Active Member

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    It will be an "all 'rounder" that is used on weekend hikes & backpack trips more than anything else. When hiking it goes in a front pack. When around town IWB...
     
  9. edslhead

    edslhead Vanc Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  10. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    Ha! I totally misread your first post, I thought you were asking which of the two you should carry while hiking/backpacking, not which you should purchase.

    The Block30s is almost identical in size to the 19/23, and the 36 is slightly slimmer. I believe that the 33 uses the same frame as the 30, so it will be marginally larger than the 36. Like I said earlier, I prefer to carry a 5" 1911 IWB, and it hides very well. I carried a 23 for a while, and it hides just as readily. 357Sig ammo is more expensive than .45, and can be somewhat difficult to locate. You mentioned earlier that you reload, so ammo availability shouldn't be an issue.
     
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  11. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I'd just get a 9mm, be it a full-on target pistol (of which there are more of than either of those calibers) for popping squirrels on the trail etc., to a mid-size "do-all" gun, to a belly gun.
    A .357 Sig is essentially a hot loaded 9mm Luger.
     
  12. Clarkston_cz

    Clarkston_cz Clarkston, Washington Member

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    The .357 SIG has good stopping power on humans, so one would think that
    it would be good on animals as well?

    When I did carry my G33 in the woods, I used this..
    DT-180.jpg

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    While I sold my G33 to await a Gen 4 Glock 33, I went to a G26 instead.

    I would like to pick up a G36 later this year and try one out.

    While, my XD-S .45 gets this:


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    A Glock 36 would get the DT 255 grain Hardcast

    http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=303_348&product_id=650

    for woods walking:)

    I'd say if the .357 SIG or .45 ACP are not enough power, look into a Glock 29.

    There are some really nice loads on the market these days.
     
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  13. Quackerbacker

    Quackerbacker Springfield, OR Active Member

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    Wow, i had no idea 180gr 9mm even existed. Velocity is still quite decent too although it diverges from the philosophy of the 357 sig, with that sectional density it must penetrate really well.
     
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    Clarkston_cz Clarkston, Washington Member

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    Yes, low recoil and great accuracy (at least from my hands) as well!
    The 180 is a bit smokey to fire, but that must be the bullet lube.

    DT-range-targ.jpg

    I never slow fire when testing guns or ammo.

    My 3 Glocks (31, 32, and 33, plus the M&P 357C) all loved
    this load for low recoil.

    dt-147-2-2.jpg
    and the Gold Dot:
    DT-Christmas-357SIG.jpg
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    However..after a year..practice ammo in the local stores became both scarce and spendy ($56)
    so we went back to 9mm and .38/357.

    I do miss the raw power of the caliber, along with that of the 10mm.

    More pics:

    http://s204.photobucket.com/user/czrami/library/DOUBLE TAP 357 SIG?sort=3&page=2
    http://s204.photobucket.com/user/czrami/library/DOUBLE TAP 357 SIG/DT357_AUG?sort=3&page=1

    http://s204.photobucket.com/user/czrami/library/DOUBLE TAP/DT -Christmas-2012?sort=3&page=1

    http://s204.photobucket.com/user/czrami/library/DOUBLE TAP/DT 10MM -2012?sort=3&page=1
     
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  15. Quackerbacker

    Quackerbacker Springfield, OR Active Member

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    Nice! Pretty good velocity for 147gr. Have you considered reloading? I really enjoy it.
     
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    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    The 9mm Underwood 147gr bonded Speers clock 1250fps out of my Hi-Power.
     
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  17. Modeler

    Modeler Molalla, Oregon Soccer Fan

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    FWIW, I'm in Alaska this summer guiding fishing trips. I'm doing some hiking while I'm up here and bought a S&W 500 with a 4" barrel and a Diamond D Leather chest holster. I've worn it exactly once; it's too big and heavy for comfortable hiking.

    When I get home to Oregon in the fall I'll be selling the .500 and getting a Glock 21 with a .460 Rowland conversion, which gives you mid-level .44 Magnum power in a 13-round handgun. The .460 Rowland is also available for the Glock 30 if you're interested for more discrete carry while you're on the trail. I carry a 9mm as my EDC otherwise.

    http://460rowland.com/
     
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  18. Quackerbacker

    Quackerbacker Springfield, OR Active Member

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    Interesting Modeler. I was just up in Cordova last month. I shot my little brother's 500 SW and i decided i had finally found my caliber match. I was glad when the cylinder was spent and when he offered to load me up another one i politely declined :)

    His G20 was downright soft shooting and i carried that on some hikes & fishing trips.

    As an aside, i have a cabin on Prince of Wales Island near Hollis. Love that place.

    I considered the G29 in 10mm but it's a bit bigger than the 33 and frankly, i tend to leave my gun at home too often as it is... I can borrow a cannon for my trips to Alaska.
     
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    Modeler Molalla, Oregon Soccer Fan

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    Nice. I'm in Ketchikan, just across the Strait. No one told me there were only black bears on Revy, turns out I could have gotten by with the .460 ;)
     
  20. Quackerbacker

    Quackerbacker Springfield, OR Active Member

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    I've co-existed on the Harris river with Blackies just fine up there but i hear that black bears that have to survive in Brown bear country are significantly more aggressive than our mild mannered bruins down here... Makes sense that they would be tougher. Last September i had about a 20ft encounter with a nice big black bear up there on the Island though and he beat a hasty retreat as soon as i said hello.