Failed cartridges...

[CamoDeafie]

Funny, even though I have one of those, don't tell anyone, but I don't consider that a pistol.

I'm thinking extra large version of something already stupid, like the Desert Eagle.

ATF calls a firearm a pistol if its got a rifled barrel under 16" and does not have a shoulder stock.. and an OAL inder 26"

Perhaps the appearance would need to be more closer to that of a Mauser C96 or perhaps a "bullpup" version in which the mag is behind the grip? Hey theres a concept, since u now can have a legit real wrist brace w the magazine in the same area!

 

[coop44]

New round. Use a .500 SW case necked down to .40 and put in a semi automatic pistol

And we could clergy dirty boo doo..... Sorry I thought we were just spouting random nonsense

 

[CamoDeafie]

We're just being silly

Back to actual "failed cartridges".... there do seem to be a lot of new "wonder rounds".... for example, the .277 Wolverine.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Or old wonder rounds...the pin fire series of cartridges come to mind here....
Andy

 

[CamoDeafie]

Oooh that reminds me. List of rimfire cartridges - Wikipedia

Try finding a .32 Rimfire in stores

How would one even reload for any rimfire cartridges???

 

[slimmer13]

Only a cheap 9mm shooting sissy would think the 40 is gone.

Cheap .45ACP shooting sissy here, thank you very much.

As far as .40, you can't deny its not as popular as it was 15-20 years ago, but like I said, its certainly not going anywhere.

And I have a general disdain for "compromise" calibers in general. .40, all the AR 15 calibers besides 5.56, etc were just invented to solve nonexistent problems and separate suckers from their money

 

[CamoDeafie]

Cheap .45ACP shooting sissy here, thank you very much.

As far as .40, you can't deny its not as popular as it was 15-20 years ago, but like I said, its certainly not going anywhere.

And I have a general disdain for "compromise" calibers in general. .40, all the AR 15 calibers besides 5.56, etc were just invented to solve nonexistent problems and separate suckers from their money

All calibers and cartridges are compromises between hitting power/lethality, sizes, recoil forces, number of rounds carried, ability of the human behind the trigger, and trajectories.

 

[Diamondback]

Okay, Mr. No Compromise, I wanna watch you fire a 16"/50 from the hip.

 

[No_Regerts]

Cheap .45ACP shooting sissy here, thank you very much.

As far as .40, you can't deny its not as popular as it was 15-20 years ago, but like I said, its certainly not going anywhere.

And I have a general disdain for "compromise" calibers in general. .40, all the AR 15 calibers besides 5.56, etc were just invented to solve nonexistent problems and separate suckers from their money

Why Im not a 308 fan. 30 caliber bullets were meant to go at least 3000 fps.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Why Im not a 308 fan. 30 caliber bullets were meant to go at least 3000 fps.

Guess you arent a fan of 7.62x25 Tokarev, 7.65 Browning, .30-30, .30-40 Krag, .30 Carbine either?

 

[DeanMk]

On topic..... .38 Super....still around, mostly sold south of the Border (because its "not military") Used to be a prime round in Major Power shooting matches (IPsomething?), but now overshadowed by other rounds.....

I do wonder what a .38 Super does out of a 16" barrel...if they are pretty fast out of 6" barrels....

Should be similar to a .357, so around 1900 ft./sec.
ME would then be a little over 1000 ft./lbs., due to the Super's lighter bullet.
.38 Super in a lightweight Commander used to be a wanted gun.


Dean

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Ahhh...who needs cartridges when you got Powder , Patch and Ball....?
Andy

 

[No_Regerts]

Guess you arent a fan of 7.62x25 Tokarev, 7.65 Browning, .30-30, .30-40 Krag, .30 Carbine either?

I like 30-30 because of the Winchester 94!

 

[CountryGent]

Ahhh...who needs cartridges when you got Powder , Patch and Ball....?
Andy
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Very neat-o. Did you add the artistic tacks?

I like 30-30 because of the Winchester 94!

Ditto. The Winchester 94 is easily one of my favorite hunting or working rifle.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Very neat-o. Did you add the artistic tacks?

Thanks
Yes and no...
On the upper gun , a mostly original Northwest Tradegun...the lock ( dated 1837 ) , barrel , furniture are all antique...the original stock was rotted beyond repair so it is new...but...
The rawhide "repair" wrap and tacks are placed where they were on the original stock...tacks are antique , wrap is new.

The lower rifle ( circa 1840's ) is all original and still shoots good....tacks are period and were put on "back in the day".
Andy

 

[CountryGent]

Thanks
Yes and no...
On the upper gun , a mostly original Northwest Tradegun...the lock ( dated 1837 ) , barrel , furniture are all antique...the original stock was rotted beyond repair so it is new...but...
The rawhide "repair" wrap and tacks are placed where they were on the original stock...tacks are antique , wrap is new.

The lower rifle ( circa 1840's ) is all original and still shoots good....tacks are period and were put on "back in the day".
Andy

Very neat. Both of those rifles inspire the "if this old rifle could talk ..." thought.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Very neat. Both of those rifles inspire the "if this old rifle could talk ..." thought.

Yes they do.
On the bottom rifle , this is carved :
"Bill Willyums , His Rifle "
Now there was a mountain man named Bill Williams...this rifle came from the area where he trapped and was killed....it is also from the time period.....
Two things :
One , Bill Williams was literate and knew how to spell his name...
And two , I am not saying that this rifle was in fact his rifle....but there are many things about it , that make one wonder.
I keep promising that I am going to do a write up of this rifle....one day soon....
Andy

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Not to thread drift too much...I'll quit after this...
Here is the sideplate of the Northwest Tradegun , pictured earlier...it is just too cool looking not to show off.
Andy

 

[284guy]

Few rifle cartridges failed as hard as the 284 Winchester. Every wildcat based on it seems more popular.

 

[osprey]

It is all about timing and perception. The 284 was a cartridge ahead of it's time. It is not so different than the current belle of the ball, the 6.5 Creedmoor.