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Expert Warns Southern California Isn’t Ready For Major Quake

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by Trailboss, Dec 12, 2013.

  1. Trailboss

    Trailboss Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like 6-12 months of preps are in order including clean water.



    LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A leading earthquake expert has issued a dire warning to Californians about the expected impact of a major disruption to the San Andreas fault line.

    The title of Dr. Lucy Jones’ lecture this week to the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco was titled “Imagine America without Los Angeles.”

    As KCAL9′s Dave Bryan reports, Jones, a Science Advisor for Risk Reduction at the U.S. Geological Survey, says when the “Big One” hits Southern California, the damage could be much greater, and could last much longer, than most of us ever imagined.

    “Loss of shelter, loss of schools, loss of jobs and emotional hardship. We are risking the ends of our cities,” she said during the presentation.

    According to a USGS study called the “Shakeout Report,” when a high-magnitude earthquake rocks the San Andreas fault, the damage will go far beyond the collapsed buildings and freeways seen in the 1994 Northridge earthquake.

    For example, LA-area supermarkets now depend on Internet systems for warehousing and shipping food to stores, and the food is stored on the other side of the San Andreas fault.

    “With the development of the Internet and the new just-in-time economy, none of them store food on the Los Angeles side of the San Andreas anymore,” Jones said.

    “So this is one more place where the development of the complexity of our modern society is creating new vulnerabilities as we face the big earthquakes.”


    Fiber-optics could also be cut off when a disastrous earthquake hits the San Andreas fault.

    “Two-thirds of the connectivity from Los Angeles to the rest of the world go through fiber-optic cables crossing the San Andreas fault,” Jones explained. “So we expect at the time of the earthquake when the fault moves, we will break these fiber-optic cables and two-thirds of the data capacity between LA and everyone else will disappear,” she said.

    Natural gas pipelines also cross the San Andreas fault, so gas for cooking and heating would be in short supply.

    And the area’s aging water pipes, which seem to break with great regularity even without a temblor, are not expected to stand up well when the big earthquake hits.

    “The water pipes — remember the first thing you put in in a city is the water pipes. That means our water pipes are some of the oldest parts of our infrastructure,” Jones said.

    “Seventy percent of the water pipes in Southern California are AC pipes and many of them will be breaking when this earthquake happens.”

    Much of the high-tech damage could hinder the recovery effort in the weeks and months after the earthquake, according to Dr. Jones, so getting Southern California back on its feet could be a wrenching process.

    “The World Wide Web wasn’t in existence at the time of the Northridge earthquake,” she said. “Right now think of how much both your personal life, but also our economic system, depends on having cell phone communications and internet connectivity (sic).”

    The “Shakeout Report” from the USGS estimates it could take six months for the broken water pipes to be replaced across Southern California after the earthquake.

    And they say while the Northridge quake directly affected about a half a million people, a maximum credible earthquake on the San Andreas fault could affect 10 million Californians.

    From CBS Los Angeles:

    ?Imagine America Without Los Angeles?: Expert Warns Southern California Isn?t Ready For Major Quake « CBS Los Angeles
     
  2. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the good news.
    Now, can we double that for San Francisco?

    Take those 2 out and Kalifornia might go back to being California - a great state.
     
  3. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Above my pay grade
     
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  4. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    There isn't much you can do to prep for the big one.

    I have a big ax, shove, and saw 30' from the house as a hail Mary pass.
     
  5. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    The whole state needs to break off into the ocean.. Along with NY.
     
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  6. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Excellent idea. I will put same plus a couple in the chicken coop tonight.
     
  7. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    And since so much of the government services are based upon this interconnectivity to provide emergency services, you can fully expect that to be completely FUBAR. I have seen this at even the most basic levels.
     
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  8. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    California being wiped out from an Earthquake? Sounds good to me....Hopefully Obama will be visiting Feinstein when it happens.
     
  9. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    The thought of soil liquefaction is making me smile.
     
  10. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Oh they are ready.
     
  11. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    Not very nice but maybe the truth but there are lots of libtards through out the state that may prevent success.
     
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  12. stratbastard

    stratbastard eugene oregon Active Member

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    Yep, they have been avoiding this issue for decades and been real lucky so far... over HALF of the Cali levees are far below standards required. Hell, some of them were built by local farmers nearly 100 years ago. When the right earthquake hits the right spot (and it does not have to be a big one) it's going to allow sea water to flood into southern Cali's fresh water supply. Imagine 25 million people with no water. Also, the salt water will taint the soils, destroying large portions of one of America's bread baskets. The collapse of merely Cali could start the collapse of the entire country economically. And there's just no money around (billions) to begin addressing this ticking time bomb.
     
  13. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    As a guy born in the old California Republic I support this sentiment

    Lived our last 11 years there before escaping (Sacramento) and twice the levees almost failed due to flooding
     
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  14. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Hey sapper dudes, looks like its time to wire up the bridges on the Cooooolumbiah!

    Brutus out
     
  15. Benny503

    Benny503 Grants Pass Well-Known Member

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    I hope they dont bring Cali disease to Us.
     
  16. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Levees "almost failed" . . . George Bush once again displaying his disregard for the population!?!?!?
    He was, no doubt, disappointed that they held.

    Sheldon
     
  17. Trailboss

    Trailboss Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I suspect that many would love to see Kalifornia suddenly go underwater.
     
  18. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    North Cali is a different state if that is defined as North of the Sacramento River Vietnam Veteran's Bridge
     
  19. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    OtisBerg!!

    (For any Superman fans out there)
     
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    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    It is spreading like wildfire.Libtrardism. Spread by the $$$ from the richest and most powerful. Bloomberg. Geo. Soros Most of Obamas owners.