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North Cali is a different state if that is defined as North of the Sacramento River Vietnam Veteran's Bridge

Agreed, I spent 2 months in Los Angeles this year, and It is totally unnatural for this many people to live so tightly packed together. People in L.A. are nuts. probably 4 to 6 murders every night. over 50% of traffic accidents are hit and runs. ( national average is 11%.). I cannot think of any redeeming qualities for the city of L.A.
 
Seeing as how I'm still in the process of evacuating los angeles, and the fact that I have a background in emergency response (EMT, police reserve) I can tell you this, the municipalities around the LA area are spending huge obama/fema dollars on all kinds of new white elephants, LA-RICS (the integrated communications system) is already many years late and overbudget *shocked* and despite this, looks still like it's never going to be implemented. In the mean time many of the other communications systems are heavily IP based, and some are shared between multiple agencies. Thus these systems are HIGHLY dependent on other infrastructure, from IP-routing to large amounts of electrical power to keep the radio systems as well as all the computers that tie it all together running.

This is to say nothing of the normal infrastructure (water, power) that depend on very long lines of supply. Water comes from the colorado, lake owens, and the sacramento/american river systems, no power means no pumps to take the water over the hills, since california has decided to let other states generate the electricity it buys any damage, however slight can affect power delivery.

In general, a major quake on the SA will be a disaster of biblical proportion, it will be written in the genetic memory of humans in the southwest region for the next 1000 generations. However, the likelyhood of a mega quake on the SA is low. I've ridden out quite a few 6+ earthquakes and even a few 7's, unless the quake is on the order of the one that hit japan or the indonesian quake in '05, all if this is wishful thinking on the part of people who want to spend more tax dollars on simulations, predictions, proposals and pouring money on municipal police and fire.

Thing is, it's never the spectacular that happens, while we internalize 9-11, for most of us it happened to someone else, and the next big event will likely happen to someone else. While I don't want to sound dismissive, planning for a major quake that interrupts power for a few days (for landers we lost power for 2 days, but I was in 29 palms about 20 miles away), which will probably screw up water, transit and a number of other things. Yea, keep the big disasters in mind, but it's the mundane that will kill you every day of the week.
 
DO NOT MOVE TO OREGON . . . We can't afford to take a chance on anyone from California.
you may be OK but you might have family and/or friends who will spread the contagion.
We have enough liberals here already and can't take a chance on you bringing others to the state.

Sheldon
 
But Sheldon, my gal and I are from cali :cool: and we make some of the members here look like Obongo's cheerleaders or Stalins secretary

I knew a LOT of very right thinking rural Cali folks, it's them city slickers you can't trust
 
I do, and they are everywhere. Honestly I believe at the final collapse we are going to have a much deeper problem from a Chinese invasion of ground troops
 
We did the problem is that more wrong thinking Californians did as well

There's that pesky thing about free travel between the states. With all my heart I DESPISE the Cali freaks as we actually had to LIVE with the bastages

Have you ever lost a professional position because you were a 2nd Amendment activist? I have
 
DO NOT MOVE TO OREGON . . . We can't afford to take a chance on anyone from California.
you may be OK but you might have family and/or friends who will spread the contagion.
We have enough liberals here already and can't take a chance on you bringing others to the state.

Sheldon

Yea, I looked into oregon, was more like california than many other states I looked at. Instead I established washington residency, rented a shop, got a business license and started making stuff to sell. Oregon didn't want any kind of heavy industry, they wanted me to pay income taxes, and business licenses were expensive. When I asked the county gov what I needed to do to keep 2000lbs of gun powder at my business, they said "nothing, but if you want more than 5000 you need an inspection".

The thing I've noticed is that all the libertarians from socal are moving up to washington, and all the wacky socialists from the bay area are moving up to portland.
 

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