EMP and North Korea

[ATCclears]

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Scroll down and read the comments from one fellow. I am no expert here, but if his observations and links are correct then the recent underground detonation by North Korea might have a yield of 300 kilotons. That is not trivial.

 

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http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/812307?section=John-Gizzi&keywords=military-defense-missiles-nuclear-weapons&year=2017&month=09&date=07&id=812307&aliaspath=/Manage/Articles/Template-Main

President Donald Trump has given military orders for U.S. forces to shoot down and destroy any missile launched from North Korea and moving toward the continental United States, Hawaii, and Guam.

Sources close to the president's national security team tell Newsmax the order was given to Pentagon brass in the wake of last month's threat by North Korea to fire a ballistic missile aimed at Guam, a U.S. territory.

"The threat provoked the president," one source familiar with the decision told Newsmax.

Last Sunday, North Korea detonated a thermonuclear weapon. The communist regime claims they can fit the new device on advanced intercontinental ballistic missiles, known as ICBMs.

This week, South Korean intelligence sources said the North was moving an ICBM in an apparent preparation for another test launch over the northern Pacific and possibly Japan.

The president also is said to be considering a new "shoot down" order for any North Korean missile launched and moving toward Japan or South Korea, another national security source told Newsmax.

"This is a clear exercise of self-defense, and there's no question we should do it," former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton told Newsmax.

Bolton said U.S. allies South Korea and Japan "are in jeopardy" and said the United States must take steps to protect them under treaty obligations.

The presidential order came after a flurry of recent provocations from Pyongyang.

In August, President Trump ominously warned the North Koreans that continued threats "will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen."

Soon after, North Korea answered Trump's warning by threatening a ballistic missile strike off the territory of Guam.

The president quickly responded, saying any attack against the U.S. would be met with a fierce response.

"Things will happen to them like they never thought possible," the president said, adding U.S. forces were "locked and loaded."

The situation appeared to be de-escalating when North Korean strongman Kim Jong Un announced he had met with his military commanders and they would not fire the missile at Guam.

In a threatening move Aug. 29, North Korea launched from their capital Pyongyang what they said was an "ultramodern rocket system" — an intermediate range missile. The missile flew over Japanese territory and landed in the Pacific.

"There is general consensus in the White House and the Pentagon that North Korea is quite close to the 'red zone' and that the U.S. must act soon or lose the upper hand," one official told Newsmax.

Bolton, who has advised the president informally on security matters, said the U.S. is being "driven in the direction of a preemptive strike because North Korea won't back down."

"We are close to the finish line," Bolton said, referring to Pyongyang's recent missile and nuclear developments. "It highlights how little time we have here."

Just days after North Korea's nuclear test detonation, Han Tae Song, the North Korean ambassador to the United Nations in Geneva, told a disarmament conference the U.S. could expect more "more gift packages."

If the U.S. military does act on President Trump's orders to shoot down a missile, this would be achieved through different U.S. anti-ballistic programs under the aegis of the Missile Defense Agency.

Among these programs are the 26-year-old Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system, (THAAD), whose "hit to kill" interceptors are designed to shoot down an incoming missile through kinetic energy that explodes the missile on impact.

"It's called stopping a bullet with a bullet," one veteran intelligence expert told Newsmax.

The technology appears to be working.

In late August, a day after the North Korea missile flew over Japan, the U.S. Missile Agency conducted a test that successfully struck down a ballistic missile off the coast of Hawaii.

The White House press office and the Pentagon declined to comment on this report.

At Thursday's White House press conference held with the Emir of Kuwait, the president said while "military action would certainly be an option" in dealing with North Korea, he added "nothing's inevitable."

"I would prefer not going the route of the military," he said.

 

[1911jaritos]

That sounds very true..always wonderd how they finance missels

So he would be launching Chinese or Russian missiles at us? Everbody knows North Korea doesn't produce anything of value or even functional capability! If he launches anything at us it will be chicom or ruskie tech!

 

[ATCclears]

North Korea 'preparing to launch missile which could reach US or UK'

We'll find out if a) Kim Duck Soup does the launch (likely), b) trajectory, c) US or another country attempts the shoot down, and d) do they successfully shoot it down.

Wifey is now pushing for more readiness. Her Father was in the State Department and advised Kennedy during the Cuban missile crisis, and he made the family evacuate the DC area for for a couple of weeks while he stayed behind in DC.

May we live in interesting times...

 

[ATCclears]

WSJ email alert

North Korea Fires Missile Over Japan, Japanese Alert System Says
North Korea fired a missile Friday morning local time that passed over Japan's northern island of Hokkaido and headed for the Pacific, according to the Japanese government's alert system.

No damage or injuries were immediately reported. If confirmed, the missile launch would be the second in less than a month by North Korea over Japan, following a similar launch in late August.

 

[ATCclears]

North Korea fires missile towards Japan | Daily Mail Online

It seems Japan won't tolerate another "fly over". So if Japan strikes back at Kim Duck Soup we/USA are probably going in with Japan.

Buckle in...

 

[ATCclears]

from the WSJ

SEOUL—North Korea's foreign minister said the country could detonate a hydrogen bomb over the Pacific Ocean in response to President Donald Trump's speech before the United Nations that warned the U.S. would annihilate North Korea if forced to defend itself or its allies.

The threat, made in remarks by North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho in New York and reported by South Korea's Yonhap News Agency, would mark a dramatic escalation in action from Pyongyang, which in the past month has already launched two intermediate-range ballistic missiles over Japan and tested what it claimed was a hydrogen bomb.

"Maybe we might consider a historic hydrogen bomb test over the Pacific Ocean," Mr. Ri said outside his Manhattan hotel, according to the Yonhap report. He said he didn't know for sure exactly what North Korean leader Kim Jong Un was planning.

 

[CountryGent]

This news is germane to the topic at hand. The Commision on EMP is set to expire at the end of this month. The Hill has details: Washington absolutely must save the EMP commission

Author and former advisor, Dick Morris, has some thoughts on the news:

Just thought I'd pass it along. Cheers.

 

[ATCclears]

Tensions Rise as U.S. Warplanes Skirt North Korean Coast, Pyongyang's Envoy Sharpens Threats
In a new escalation of hostility between Washington and Pyongyang, North Korea's foreign minister warned in a United Nations speech Saturday that a rocket attack on the U.S. mainland was "inevitable," while U.S. warplanes flew off the east coast of North Korea in an explicit show of force.

The eight U.S. aircraft remained in international airspace and flew the farthest north of the demilitarized zone between North Korea and South Korea that American warplanes have flown since Pyongyang started testing ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons in the 1990s, the Pentagon said.

At the U.N. General Assembly, North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho said U.S. President Donald Trump's recent comments about Kim Jong Un and North Korea would have consequences. "He committed an irreversible mistake of making our rockets' visit to the entire U.S. mainland inevitable all the more," Mr. Ri said.

 

[ATCclears]

One analysis of the situation with North Korea.

Why There is Only One Option to Deal with North Korea: A Bloody War

 

[nwslopoke]

I don't know what revolver Barney Fife had but I know he only had one bullet. It's like him wanting to get into a gun fight with a platoon of marines with automatic weapons. The math doesn't work in his favor.

Same with NK. A single warhead hits somewhere in Asia then NK is done. The US responds with several gifts when the wind is right and China gets the fall out. I think NK isn't that stupid. The NK only know what they are told.

During Desert Storm when it was basically over we went to a city. Not in Saudi Arabia, but the people were friendly but asked why we were there. Some people really didn't know what was going on.

 

[tac]

The little fat guy with the odd-looking hairstyle is moonbat crazy. Taking on the greatest military, Army, Navy and Airforce, on the planet, especially with an air force that has, as its main transport, the An-2 BIPLANE, and a navy that is averaging fifty years old, is not the advice I would be giving him.

The contents of just ONE US Navy SSBN could convert his entire nation to glowing wasteland for the next thousand years, but I guess that when you have the world's greatest ego, that really doesn't matter.

One really has to wonder what drives him to this suicidal turn of events.

tac

 

[ATCclears]

Known Unknowns: The Dangers of North Korea's H-Bomb Threat

The U.S.'s 1954 Castle Bravo thermonuclear disaster offers a cautionary tale about what could go wrong

 

[ATCclears]

October 10th in NK is late Monday afternoon here. Let's see if they fire another missile, if the US attempts to shoot it down, and if/how Japan retaliates if the missile flies over them again.

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[HB of CJ]

Nah! A bunch of air burst ICBM tactical sized nukes from just ONE of our SLBM subs would only wipe out his august great nation and leave the ground radded for only a few days. Then the South Koreans could just walk over and move in. Still prime real estate for lots of folks.

The problem exists that the Chinese might ALSO want to walk over and settle in. Plus the nasty fact that all that very limited radioactivity would just blow East and pee off the Japanese. Not a good idea. No more Honda products for awhile. Plus it would pee off GODZILLA!!

 

[ATCclears]

South Korea developing graphite 'blackout bombs' to paralyse North's electrical grid

 

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As N. Korea threatens nuclear missile test, are US ballistic defenses ready?

 

[Hop Sing]

I just read a book called "One Second After" about an EMP strike and have been depressed ever since. The book takes place in a mountain college town in the Carolinas and follows what went on after the strike for a year or so. Not pretty.

 

[ATCclears]

I just read a book called "One Second After" about an EMP strike and have been depressed ever since. The book takes place in a mountain college town in the Carolinas and follows what went on after the strike for a year or so. Not pretty.

Yup, read it. I don't know what the result would be, but we would have one large "science experiment".

 

[Hop Sing]

Yup, read it. I don't know what the result would be, but we would have one large "science experiment".

After reading it and considering my age and bad joints I have decided to just live well off the food I have stored and then say good-bye. No way I'd live through that stuff.