Does This Style Of Projectile Look Safe For Tube Magazines?

[orygun]

I wonder just how often does this happen...?
Not saying that it can't or won't happen.

Just wondering if this is something that has been repeated for so long that it must be true.


Andy

This^^.
I wish I could quote what I'd read on this subject, but now I can't even remember where I read it.
"It", being that this is a concern based on possibilities, not fact.

 

[HighlandLofts]

If in doubt throw it out.
I'd personally go a different route.

 

[bcp]

From the Ruger 44 Carbine* manual:


*the original tubular magazine version.

Back then there were photos published of one with a blown up magazine.

Bruce

 

[WAYNO]

I've been shooting and reloading a long time. As long as I've shot and reloaded, the loading publications have advised against anything but soft-point/hollow soft-point bullets for use in tubular magazines.

Years later, folks are questioning this advice as just fudd-old-school drivel. Now, if a person ignores this advice, and they have a mishap, who are they gonna sue?

I'm sure not gonna push it just to prove the old folks wrong. And if anybody on the range is doing so, I hope they notify the rest of us so we can stand back.

 

[orygun]

From the Ruger 44 Carbine* manual:

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*the original tubular magazine version.

Back then there were photos published of one with a blown up magazine.

Bruce

Ruger ALWAYS says to not use reloaded ammunition.
But the specific point made to the shape of the bullet is interesting. I don't remember seeing that in any other tube fed gun.
I wonder what happened?

 

[ageingstudent]

Ruger ALWAYS says to not use reloaded ammunition.
But the specific point made to the shape of the bullet is interesting. I don't remember seeing that in any other tube fed gun.
I wonder what happened?

Looks like a cross between a flat nose .357 and a truncated cone for 9mm with a rounded meplat. It's weird. Plus the weight is odd for a 9 and the size is odd for a .357.

 

[arakboss]

The price on these was lowered to $49 per 500ct batch. I suspect these aren't selling quickly because they don't have a cannelure.

38 / 357 158gr RN FMJ BLEMS - 500ct - American Reloading

Blemished Projectiles - May contain: Mixed Lots, Discolored Finish and/or Minor Deformities *Any specific blemishes will be noted and pictured

americanreloading.com

 

[YippeeKiYoRed]

Late to this party, but I immediately understood the concern. You've probably figured it out by now. If not, something to compare would be the diameter of the end of the bullet against the primer pocket diameter.

 

[Newberg]

They are too small diameter for 357 Mag specs say .355-.356 and should be .357-358 for the magnum....

@oremike

I have 1k of these currently.

Here is a random sample of diameters pulled from a box of 500.

Every one measured right at .3570

 

[Hemlock]

And yes....
I would guess that with a rifle that 'recoils" more this is something to think about.
Andy

Why would a rifle recoil more? Heaver gun would recoil less. A 357 magnum load is a magnum load. Same for rifle as for a revolver.

 

[arakboss]

@oremike

I have 1k of these currently.

Here is a random sample of diameters pulled from a box of 500.

Every one measured right at .3570

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Any regrets about buying these? They have them for just under $41 per 500ct batch now.

 

[Newberg]

I bought 1.5k more last night. Quality is great. $38.99/500 on sale!

 

[RVTECH]

$38.99/500 on sale!

Great deal!

$48.74/500 today. I would have gone for the $38.99 if it was still the price....

 

[arakboss]

Great deal!

$48.74/500 today. I would have gone for the $38.99 if it was still the price....

The price should be $40 and some change after 15% discount which is applied in cart.

 

[arakboss]

Great deal!

$48.74/500 today. I would have gone for the $38.99 if it was still the price....

Scratch my last reply they are $38.99. I had not switched shipping location to OR so sales tax was being added.

 

[RVTECH]

they are $38.99.

500 on the way!

 

[Wombat of Doom]

I wonder just how often does this happen...?
Not saying that it can't or won't happen.

Just wondering if this is something that has been repeated for so long that it must be true.

And yes....
I would guess that with a rifle that 'recoils" more this is something to think about.
Andy

I have seen an example in .460 and 30-30. I will say I saw examples of the offending 30-30 and it was a sharp conical bullet shaped like typical military fmjs. The .460 S&W was reportedly conical as well, but I did not see the photo of the offending bullet. But I think it was in a BHA newsletter reminding owners to use appropriate projectiles after someone had a magazine detonation.

 

[arakboss]

Interesting discussion on the idea here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/2jc8nt/the_final_word_on_tubular_magazine_detonations

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/2jc8nt/the_final_word_on_tubular_magazine_detonations/