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Until the rule actually drops it's not 100% that there won't be any exclusions, but I wouldn't bet on any. Previous rule proposals only denoted firearm characteristics... not calibers. In that event, rimfires would also be reclassified along with everything else.I was wondering if this new proposed ATF pistol brace ban includes rimfires, or is it just centerfire?
LIKEWISE!!!! "They" can eat a duffel bag full dicks!.....with EVERYTHING they try to doIs it just me or is everyone else sick of all this bullbubblegum going on
I'll be keeping all the items they ban they can shove it where the sun don't shine
No where in the verbage does it differentiate calibers or RF vs CF.
It won't be. Haha.Agreed. You can't have a rimfire SBR without a stamp so why would this be any different.
Is it just me or is everyone else sick of all this bullbubblegum going on
I'll be keeping all the items they ban they can shove it where the sun don't shine
I think it would be more appropriate to cut our barrels down to 1 inch AND stick an oil filter on the end AND swap the braces out with a stock. They'll never know it's a gun. I promise"I'll be keeping all the items they ban they can shove it where the sun don't shine"
If that's truly how you feel then I don't see why you needed to respond to this thread. Talking that big boy talk I assume you've already swapped out all your braces with stocks right???
It's not really speculation, no.So you could legally put a folding stock and other offending features on your 10/22 all you want and it was not against the law. Who's to say for sure this isn't the case with this. Unless you've actually read the written verbiage of it personally, it's just speculation, isn't it?
You can even see number 3 on the first page is speaking of SBRs
"A semi automatic center fire rifle with an overall length less than 30 inches in length"
Again, rimfires we're not included in the banning of short barreled rifles.
Completely valid question, IMO. Rimfire are nearly always an exemption in firearm regulation. SBR's though we're facing the perception that all SBR's are high power long guns converted into concealable weapons... and not what many of them actually are. Pistol and lower caliber firearms made more effective and manageable than a handgun for SD purposes.I tend to agree with your logic. There's no reason for them not to include rimfires. I've just been curious about this and since I couldn't find any info I thought I'd post the question here.
ATF has been making noise about doing away with them for a while. They keep kicking the can down the road but a ban is coming with the current administration. The only reason this is taking this long is they let so damn many of the things get made and sold that now its going to be a little harder than it would have been. We all could see it coming. People were pushing the envelope of "brace" to the point it was easy to see the Feds were going to finally do something. The "nice" thing to do would be just get rid of the stupid rule on SBR's but, I think we all know that is just not going to happen right now.Ok, I must have missed something. When the hell did pistol braces become a consideration to ban?
Also, is there a timetable and what qualifies it as a pistol brace(not aware of the difference, only have rifle stocks), and where can I get some?
Yup. Once a gooberment steals a slice of freedom from the people... death to us all before they will ever yield it back. It doesn't matter how stupid the idea that a mid sized firearm shooting the same bullets as the little ones or the big ones is categorically more dangerous than them both.The "nice" thing to do would be just get rid of the stupid rule on SBR's but, I think we all know that is just not going to happen right now.
This is the problem, so many attacks on our rights and some people have zero idea. No offense here meant, we need a better way of getting the information out there.Ok, I must have missed something. When the hell did pistol braces become a consideration to ban?
Also, is there a timetable and what qualifies it as a pistol brace(not aware of the difference, only have rifle stocks), and where can I get some?
None taken, I wish there was a better way as well. Hell, I had to use my google fu just to figure out what the difference was between rifles, pistols and SBRs. Apparently only takes a misuse of a brace, using a vertical grip and/or stock on a short barrel rifle and your screwed. That is such a minute difference that it's crazy that it's even a thing, given how easy it is to accidentally do one of those things without even knowing it.This is the problem, so many attacks on our rights and some people have zero idea. No offense here meant, we need a better way of getting the information out there.