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I'm sorry but even for the "Socially Liberal" posters here the scales should have tipped long ago towards the GOP , its the recalcitrant conservatives who swore off the GOP long ago over things like the Papa Bush barrel ban and the Patriot Act who need to put their happy pants on and become "Single Issue" voters again ( With a few side issues like Support for Israel, REALLY SECURING THE BORDER and deporting criminal illegals, and beating back the Socialist onslaught ...
 
Gator is correct.
The goal is to have a majority in the house and senate . . . BECAUSE, the majority party sets the rules and controls the games that are played in Salem!!!!!

Sheldon
 
Gator is correct.
The goal is to have a majority in the house and senate . . . BECAUSE, the majority party sets the rules and controls the games that are played in Salem!!!!!

Sheldon

And the majority now is leftists. That speaks volumes about what a sorry mess the State is in now. We been kalifuched... :(
 
Guys guys , it is an easy choice , your just making it hard on yourselves ... Srsly if you think the GOP & Fundy Conservatives have the cajones to REALLY CHANGE the things (Choice /Gay Marriage/unfettered backyard pot grows/ ability to be molested by an Adult Male midget in your own bedroom without Morality Police showing up) that you "Socially Liberal" folks are so concerned about please rethink that , I'm a Hardcore Nationalist Conservative Constitutionalist Militia Member and I have ZERO confidence that the Republicans would do any of those things you fear to the point of throwing 2A/RTKBA under the bus in your voting habits to protect the other "Rights"...
 
your right about "california hear we come", BUT, its all ready apparent. It's here, and, take a look on the calguns forums, in california, they are in a world of hurt, brought on by THE VOTERS, who, THEY elected yrs ago, all out libs in the worst possible way. It is just short of crazy, all kind of stupid gun ''laws'' and they can't even keep the streets safe of idiot drivers, gang bangers, drugs etc. Its a war zone down there. So, now ''they'' move up here, and its really starting to show. One law at a time is the agenda, slowly, quietly, but surely, they'll tighten the grip on the honest gun owners to the extent they can't even own/shoot a ''real'' gun. And, before you know it, you are sheeple. The giffords, the brady's, the Hollywood two faced jerks who make the violent, gun related movies, rake in the big bucks, then blast gun owners ,and have a total anti gun stance, then, say nobody ''needs '' guns.
 
your right about "california hear we come", BUT, its all ready apparent. It's here, and, take a look on the calguns forums, in california, they are in a world of hurt, brought on by THE VOTERS, who, THEY elected yrs ago, all out libs in the worst possible way. It is just short of crazy, all kind of stupid gun ''laws'' and they can't even keep the streets safe of idiot drivers, gang bangers, drugs etc. Its a war zone down there. So, now ''they'' move up here, and its really starting to show. One law at a time is the agenda, slowly, quietly, but surely, they'll tighten the grip on the honest gun owners to the extent they can't even own/shoot a ''real'' gun. And, before you know it, you are sheeple. The giffords, the brady's, the Hollywood two faced jerks who make the violent, gun related movies, rake in the big bucks, then blast gun owners ,and have a total anti gun stance, then, say nobody ''needs '' guns.
When they get done screwing this state, they will move on to another. What the heck, it's all for our own good. :eek:
 
that's because Republicans do it behind your back. look up some bills that President Bush try to pass before he ran for president. not all Republicans are gun friendly. let's also not forget that President Bush also but further restrictions on military surplus ammo. a bill that President Obama let expire.

Got to stop living in the past and look at the now take a look at the names on this and it pretty much sums it all up. The problem with most liberals is they can be looking at the truth but still deny it.

http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001L_Lq...4SyMpYFcLd4wsuz6zHeBFesjBwgsNZADfFK8gZA4d_Q==

I will say this though, it will take democrats and republicans and everyone in between to put their differences aside and start working together to stop this. And the gun owning democrats are going to have to rise up as you are a minority in your party but I know there are plenty of you so you will need to stand up to those you elected for what ever reason it was that you elected them and tell them to stop it .
 
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Show me any Republicans are true conservative anymore. the Republican Party has been taken over by religious zealots who are anti gay anti abortion and are controlled by the corporations just as bad as Democrats. unfortunately I don't fall on any side because I'm pro choice I don't give a s*** about who marries who and I'm an atheist but I also love shooting guns and owning guns I also understand that it's up to me to protect my family's life I can't wait 15 minutes for a police officer to show up.

Were not talking about true conservatives, we are talking about the states of Oregon and Washington's gun rights being steamrolled buy the left. I know that you are feeling as if you are being ganged up on, and frankly, if you voted for any of the politicians that are voting yes on these anti gun bills, you are the problem so quit changing the subject and ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!:mad:
 
Guys guys , it is an easy choice , your just making it hard on yourselves ... Srsly if you think the GOP & Fundy Conservatives have the cajones to REALLY CHANGE the things (Choice /Gay Marriage/unfettered backyard pot grows/ ability to be molested by an Adult Male midget in your own bedroom without Morality Police showing up) that you "Socially Liberal" folks are so concerned about please rethink that , I'm a Hardcore Nationalist Conservative Constitutionalist Militia Member and I have ZERO confidence that the Republicans would do any of those things you fear to the point of throwing 2A/RTKBA under the bus in your voting habits to protect the other "Rights"...

Take out the non P.C. humor and pay attention to what Gator really is saying you pro gun rights Dems and Liberals!
Whatever gains that have been made on the Social/Enviro Liberal side are not going to disappear if the Dems lose the majority or "GASP!", Republicans gain a majority in Oregon. It will never happen. Stop being paranoid! Pot does that to you don't you know! LOL:D
What would happen might be a small slowdown of the additional increase in these types of "Social Justice" things.
A breather so to speak, a re- balance of power.
The Extreme Liberals have everybody thinking the planet will burn up, abortion and birth control will be illegal, your daughters will be sexually harassed and discriminated against, minorities will be "put back in chains" as Biden said, and Schools and public sector Unions will be dismantled if the Dems don't stay in power.

I'm sure you don't believe the Republicans would be able to do all that in one or two terms even if they were hell bent on accomplishing that do you? Do you really think that?o_O

What the Dems who have been in power a long, long time seem hell bent on accomplishing at the moment is Gun registration and extreme CA style restrictions.

With the super majority they will succeed.
 
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Now that they feminized most of the men on the left they use the "battered housewife" syndrome to keep people voting the same. Even when the husband is willing to get the wife killed she still won't leave him cause " the next one is no better". Useful idiots that support their on demise with gun controls.o_O

It's an Alinski tool to keep their masters in and give people no choices. There is a choice folkes, throw out the masters and get another crew in.
 
I can't say it any better than this, read it completely until the end.

http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/item/the-post-in-which-i-piss-off-everybody

I am both a liberal and a conservative, if you think that isn't possible then you don't understand the meaning of either.

The modern democratic party is not liberal, but is progressive. If you are a true liberal (or libertarian) today in Oregon, you should be voting Republican. Tomorrow will likely be different, but for now this is definitely the case.

I agree that in the current two party system we are screwed, the best we can hope for is to play one off the other. But in the end that will lead to the worst of both worlds, unless we can re-introduce the primary concern of the true versions both liberal and conservative political philosophies, which is to limit the power of government.

In the short term look at this way, if you vote democrat, they will take your guns, and after that, the rest of your freedom; if you vote republican, you will get to keep your guns, and when the mob of religious fanatics shows up at your door to tell you who you can have sex with, you can shoot back.
 
I'm not sure if this will work, but, if not, go to youtube, then type in,

FIREWALL Number one with a bullet.

The FACTS are very interesting to say the least. Sorry for my internet illiteracy.
 

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