Oregon Boquist's response to those who contacted him negatively

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  1. Chee-to

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    Boquist's response to those who contacted him negatively on
    SB719........:eek:



    From:
    Sen Boquist <Sen.BrianBoquist@oregonlegislature.gov>
    To:THIS SPACE CONTAINED EVERYBODY'S EMAIL ADDRESS


    You all contacted us with your negative thoughts on the suicide prevention bill modeled on a decades old Connecticut law that is credited with saving of lives. Likewise, multiple States have existing similar laws including Washington which passed by 70% before statewide voters. It is apparent you contacted me based on an Oregon Firearms Federation fundraising alert, or a fundraising email from the California gun dealer’s dba Firearms Policy Coalition whose lobbyist is a contributor to Breitbart.



    Unless you are verbally propagating suicide to your household members or threatening to murder them, the new law will not impact you at all. Likely, it will only impact less than a few hundred Oregonians a year.



    However, if you are only interested in blindly funding OFF and FPC then please hit the delete key now.



    Also, if you want to fire back rhetoric without reading further just remember your email is already a public record for which the federalists no doubt already possess at the NSA. All government emails at the Legislative level are stored in the ‘cloud’ by a third party thus not secure.



    The purpose of SB 719 and SB 868 is suicide prevention. Oregon ranks 4th in the nation for suicides. Oregon is top of the list for military and veteran suicides. The leading death of young people is suicide. Every day 22 veterans commit suicide in the nation. I could write pages on this problem along with the total failure of two Presidents (R&D), and multiple Congresses (R&D), and our own State ignoring this fact along with their list of excuses. If you really care then look at the 20 plus floor documents at the link below outlining the problem we face in Oregon and America.



    It is obvious very few of you read Kevin’s or Phillip’s link to the bill, and maybe none of you researched the Oregon Legislative Information System history, testimony, and hearing process of SB 868 which I sponsored after a decade of trying other solutions. I can honestly say I do not recall ANY of you ever offering a solution in the past decade as America abandoned it’s veterans. This includes those of you who served too. Note, SB 719 a committee bill, passed the Oregon State Senate nearly three months ago, not last week. Most of the comments we received are factually incorrect thus below I will outline the facts plus provide you independent links to verify yourself:



    Militia clause . The U.S. Supreme Court dominated by Republican appointees in DC v. Heller very clearly established firearm ownership as an individual right with restrictions exactly contained in the suicide prevention bill. See link.



    Due process . The U.S. Supreme Court dominated by Republican appointees in Mathews v. Eldridge along with multiple other cases have established a due process requirement time line less than are contained in this suicide prevention bill. See link.



    Ex parte. The U.S. Supreme Court dating back to the early 1800s to present have set out the ex parte requirements in cases such as Merryman, Milligan, and others. Ex parte is well established in criminal and civil law across America including Oregon. Plus the penalties for false allegations are larger than non-compliance as the goal is suicide prevention, not the fundraising rhetoric most of you failed to check out.



    For the public record, ex parte, due process, and militia clause elements of SB 719, and SB 868 originally, were improved & narrowed based on written suggestions by the National Rifle Association along with others. We can email you OFF’s and the NRA’s correspondence. Read your NRA, OFF and FPC alerts carefully as they are competing for your donations by stating their propagandized positions very carefully as they know the law too.



    Extreme risk protective orders designed to prevent suicide or harm are fully constitutional pursuant to the U.S. Supreme Court adjudications of the U.S. Constitution. ERPOs have been in place for decades in other States. Heller, Mathews, Milligan, and Merryman rulings are not one’s you want to overturn if you cherish due process and your individual rights. The question is do you really support the U.S. Constitution or you want to pick & choose parts based on your own interpretation.



    Several groups competing for dollars knowingly made numerous inaccuracies to get donations. Kitchen knives are not deadly weapons under any law in Oregon. Third party transfers were covered in depth at public hearings at the request of the same groups making wild claims in their alerts. Timelines for the judicial hearings processes were changed at the request of the same gun groups. As was the use of clear & convincing evidence before a judge not the normal weaker constitutional standards.



    Mental health. SB 719 is a suicide prevention bill not a mental health adjudication intentionally to preserve an individual’s 2nd Amendment rights. NRA, OFF and FPC know full well if a court makes a mental adjudication it is a permanent loss of gun rights under 18 USC 922(g)(4). Since SB 719 has multiple hearings and court options before a judge, such a mental health ruling would result in a No entry on line 11f on an ATF Form 4473 i.e. background check. For these reasons, the law specifically stated the process was not a mental health adjudication, and allows the respondent the choice if he or she wants to risk having such a mental health adjudication thus allowing them to seek help without a permanent loss of rights. See links.



    You should note the Legislature passed other expansions of mental health and suicide prevention elsewhere in the Session including expanded services, 24-hour preventions, and police training.



    Elephants and rhinoceroses. The GOP’s Platform link is below. Everything in SB 719 conforms to the intent and words of the Republican platform. Suggest those of you making RINO claims read your own party’s positions. It is telling that 19 Oregon House Republicans voted against funding State veterans programs including veterans suicide prevention and mental health. Odder, it was three Democrat legislators who got back the full funding level of Measure 96 with the help of two Republican legislators. Likewise, multiple Republican Central Committees in Oregon have openly opposed local law enforcement and public safety. So much for veterans and law & order platform in Oregon or by the Republican Congress. Federalist Republicans oversee an abysmal Veterans Administration, failed on immigration reform, and after three years in power have done nothing on health care.



    Let me remind all of you the United States is a representative republic not a parliamentary nation like Great Britain. America elect’s representatives not party hacks to sit in parliament. State Senators represent all 128,000 citizens of their districts. I represent Senate District 12 not some other district elsewhere in the State. Republicans account for 34% of Senate District 12. And more than half of them want stricter gun laws that I will not support. Only 27% of Oregonians are Republicans. Again, more than half of these Republicans want stricter laws. Those of you making the above RINO claims need to access your own party affiliation as most of you have expressed non-Republican views and platform positions. A link to change parties is below.



    In closing, unless you are verbally propagating suicide to your household members or threatening to murder them, the new law will not impact you at all. Of course, if you have five ex-wives, beat your children, and hate local law enforcement, you have bigger problems than this new law. But if you have a better suggestion for reducing suicide, especially amongst veterans, then please take the time to make some constructive suggestions.



    Sincerely,



    Brian J. Boquist

    Chairman

    Veterans & Emergency Prep

    Oregon State Senate





    Staff Measure Summary:

    https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureAnalysisDocument/37843



    Hearing & Floor Documentation:

    https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Measures/Exhibits/SB719



    SB 868 Bill Text:

    https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB719/A-Engrossed



    SB 719 Bill Text:

    https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Measures/Exhibits/SB868



    Veterans Suicide:

    https://public.health.oregon.gov/DiseasesConditions/InjuryFatalityData/Documents/NVDRS/suicide-among-oregon-veterans2008through2012.pdf



    http://www.cbs8.com/story/35349649/oceanside-stop-army-veteran-walks-across-america-for-fellow-veterans



    http://upnorthlive.com/news/local/group-of-veterans-walk-92-miles-to-raise-suicide-awareness



    OFF, FPC & NRA Floor Letters:



    OFF https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/FloorLetter/1959

    FPC https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/FloorLetter/1940

    NRA https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/FloorLetter/1947



    U.S. Supreme Court Cases:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathews_v._Eldridge



    Connecticut Law (1990s):

    http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4830&context=lcp



    http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/11/study-shows-connecticut-temporary-gun-removal-law-lowers-suicide-risk



    https://medicine.yale.edu/news/article.aspx?id=13939



    GOP Platform:

    https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/static/home/data/platform.pdf



    Sec of State Links:

    http://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/registration.aspx

    http://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Pages/recall.aspx
     
  2. 3MTA3

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    Boquist is a smarmy cheese dick and I would support any Democrat who opposes him at this point. At least then it would be official that his district is represented by a Democrat. I'd still prefer a true Republican beat him in the primary, and then win his old seat
     
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  3. Sgt Nambu

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    I would like to "contact negatively" Mr Boquist with some knuckles! :D

    Our problem, Mr Boquist, dear, is THERES NO DUE PROCESS!!! You dip nard! :mad:
     
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  5. BDA.45

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    Uhhhhhhh......Repeal and replace......
     
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    That's a threat right there. This guy has to go and the sooner the better.
     
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    I thought Doxxing was a No-No?

    I'll see what I can do to gin up GOP activist outrage against his continued officeholding in my column next week...
     
  8. bolus

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    Started to write senator f**k-stick a email about how poorly Oregon Health Plan managed mental health issues for my patients. like a actively suicidal patient not being able to see a psychiatrist for 3 months because the OHP would not let them drive 45 minutes to see one in Portland. Or one of MANY MANY others where I had to fight daily to keep OHP from denying care that would have KILLED my patients....

    or when I would have to see veterans at my clinic because the WAIT AT THE F'ING VA WAS MONTHS

    But gun control will fix it all. Did you talk to one physician?

    But then I remembered I dont live in the state anymore....

    " But if you have a better suggestion for reducing suicide, especially amongst veterans, then please take the time to make some constructive suggestions."

    here ya go: quit your job, get a vasectomy, move to iceland, get eaten by a seal. Put that in your NSA file
     
  9. Diamondback

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    Bolus, wouldn't that be a tragic waste of viable donor organs, and an undue cruel deprivation to transplant patients desperately in need of same?
     
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  10. No_Regerts

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    Boquist....GFY.
     
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  11. Chee-to

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    He sent visible email addresses of everybody who "negatively" contacted him , I literally have hundreds of address's .. I guess it's some vague attempt to insinuate we all's on a "list" of some sort........:eek:!!
    Well Brian, you actually put me in contact with hundreds of like minded people, and to tell ya the truth, I'm kinda proud to be on that list...... So there....:s0121:
     
  12. Diamondback

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    @Chee-to, maybe you should hook up with the folks at the Recall Kate Brown page and ask if they'll pool resources on a Recall Boquist effort too. :)

    Wouldn't it be ironic if it turned out that an Enemies List hee assembled and put in touch with each other became the instrument of his downfall? :D
     
  13. aflineman

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    Hmmm. So the NRA was involved in writing this bill? And he seems to prefer a "partnership" with the NRA, to a partnership with OFF?
     
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  15. Stomper

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    As well as... SMD.
     
  16. nammac

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    That's called karma...

    We have a real SoS now, perhaps the off season should be spent on recalls... It's time to clean the state house of the vermin!!!!
     
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    And we need a cutesy nickname/slogan for the effort against Lyin' Brian... ("We" because even though I'm not in Oregon, I'm claiming a place in the effort's Propaganda Ministry and will do what I can to call down activists from across the nation upon him on your behalf... :) )
     
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