National Biden wants to know how much ammo you had shipped to you and powder and primers too!

[Saladfarmer]

Any haz mat stuff and all that goes down the barrel....

What could be wrong with that?

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[RobMa]

As far as I know they are not targeting the end user.... Yet.

 

[titsonritz]

Meanwhile, he arms the Taliban with millions (sorry billion) worth of weapons and tech. Such a great American.

 

[rhollister71]

gonna order some today actually 9mm lung eliminators and the dreaded super scary 5.56
sgammo got decent price on them packed in a can already!! free shipping free ammo can win win!!

 

[Alexx1401]

I have LONG figured that if they wanted to know they already do. Since I know of no easy way to order this stuff and be anonymous I have never cared. EVERYTHING is done electronically now so I have long figured that if someone wanted to see and track they could easily see me buying the stuff. As much as goes out daily doubt they care. Now if I had a semi pulling up to my house with ammo I could see they might get curious.

 

[Saladfarmer]

looks like its more than just ammo.. chest rigs and mag pouches too.... I already knew about the holsters, that came out a few days ago. More and more companies are getting the letters from the census bureau.. Great how these commies weaponize every bureaucratic entity.

 

[The Heretic]

The thing is, the gov already knows all of this info; the NSA collects all of this info - they intercept all electronic comms, and therefore know exactly who bought what.

 

[Yarome]

My thought. Tack a $.50 "I will not comply fine fee" to my order. (to offset the Mfg's $500 fine ) I'll pay!

 

[sobo]

My thought. Tack a $.50 "I will not comply fine fee" to my order. (to offset the Mfg's $500 fine ) I'll pay!

My thought: Tack a great big phuq'n GFY! stencil all over the box my ammo ships in...

These gottdamn Leftists and that demented potato need a serious comeuppance...

 

[titsonritz]

What's he worried about? I thought he had nukes and F-15s.

 

[ob1]

The thing is, the gov already knows all of this info; the NSA collects all of this info - they intercept all electronic comms, and therefore know exactly who bought what.

Absolutely ding dang right !

No search warrant, court order, bench warrant or probable cause. Everything, all conceivable information is already out there....
(even whether @Stomper uses 2 ply or 4 ply)

How ? ... because everything is connected and is therefore available. All that information..all of it stored in repositories. Anything you text, click on, call, even where you go and who you meet when get there.....because your smarty phone has 911 location that you can't turn off. Pull out the battery, Faraday Cage ? As soon as you use it, you're done. All you can do is use throw away your phone and pay some kid, who wont work at a fast food joint to buy more replacements for you But you still leave a digital roadmap.You would have to rotate your phone kids like the cartels do.

How did this happen..George W and the Patriot Act. It all went into high gear from there....
The lack of oversight due to new over top secret level clearances, cloaking the money, the mind boggling technology, incredible infrastructure and dark funding vehicles necessary to pull this off. Kind of like how Special Forces started but on steroids. Did I mention money ?

No, the days of men in black wearing Ray Bans are long gone.
They don't park down the block in surveillance vans anymore.
They don't tap phones with a bug wired into the target location. It's all done with an enter button at will.
All the information is there, waiting to be retrieved at will, constantly being digitized and collated at complexes all over the place. You don't know about them or where they are.
Collation and compartmenting are the miracles that make it possible..they eliminate humans from the physical tasks of diving into the incredible volume of . information.
.. Even most of the people doing the actual keyboard work don't have the full picture of what they are doing. From there it goes to the analyst levels, then the guys at the investigative level for packaging. Few probably even knowing others in the chain.

The old term used to be.."Need To Know".

The big take away from this is that technology traditionally reserved for cold war targets are now pointed inward. Couple that with less than visionary politicians have created a real threat to our privacy, be it intentional or deliberate. We are now being cast as the "Boogie Man".

The information of what you purchase, what web site you or I visit, like now, is only the tip of the iceberg.

Of course they can't read our p/m's here though ..that's secret, right ?

But hey..I don't know anything. I'm just an old fert biding my time until I can have a sit down with Sgt Nambu.
Worrying about this stuff doesn't help. It's out of our hands now and I personally think no longer reversible.

(But I did hear Stomper uses 4 ply. well...that's what I heard.)

 

[GWS]

 

[The Heretic]

How did this happen..George W and the Patriot Act. It all went into high gear from there....

The NSA was collecting data long before either Bush was POTUS.

But yes, the Patriot Act greatly accelerated and facilitated the collection/analysis of the data.

 

[nwslopoke]

I have LONG figured that if they wanted to know they already do. Since I know of no easy way to order this stuff and be anonymous I have never. cared. EVERYTHING is done electronically now so I have long figured that if someone wanted to see and track they could easily see me buying the stuff. As much as goes out daily doubt they care. Now if I had a semi pulling up to my house with ammo I could see they might get curious.

Crack was originally openly sold on the streets. It took the police a while to figure out what it was. Law makers know little about guns and less about reloading or farming or transportation or most things.

Look at the ATF. They claim something is perfectly legal. List why it IS legal then say the same thing is illegal...because. Control, tax, fine, arrest.

 

[RobMa]

Absolutely ding dang right !

No search warrant, court order, bench warrant or probable cause. Everything, all conceivable information is already out there....
(even whether @Stomper uses 2 ply or 4 ply)

How ? ... because everything is connected and is therefore available. All that information..all of it stored in repositories. Anything you text, click on, call, even where you go and who you meet when get there.....because your smarty phone has 911 location that you can't turn off. Pull out the battery, Faraday Cage ? As soon as you use it, you're done. All you can do is use throw away your phone and pay some kid, who wont work at a fast food joint to buy more replacements for you But you still leave a digital roadmap.You would have to rotate your phone kids like the cartels do.

How did this happen..George W and the Patriot Act. It all went into high gear from there....
The lack of oversight due to new over top secret level clearances, cloaking the money, the mind boggling technology, incredible infrastructure and dark funding vehicles necessary to pull this off. Kind of like how Special Forces started but on steroids. Did I mention money ?

No, the days of men in black wearing Ray Bans are long gone.
They don't park down the block in surveillance vans anymore.
They don't tap phones with a bug wired into the target location. It's all done with an enter button at will.
All the information is there, waiting to be retrieved at will, constantly being digitized and collated at complexes all over the place. You don't know about them or where they are.
Collation and compartmenting are the miracles that make it possible..they eliminate humans from the physical tasks of diving into the incredible volume of . information.
.. Even most of the people doing the actual keyboard work don't have the full picture of what they are doing. From there it goes to the analyst levels, then the guys at the investigative level for packaging. Few probably even knowing others in the chain.

The old term used to be.."Need To Know".

The big take away from this is that technology traditionally reserved for cold war targets are now pointed inward. Couple that with less than visionary politicians have created a real threat to our privacy, be it intentional or deliberate. We are now being cast as the "Boogie Man".

The information of what you purchase, what web site you or I visit, like now, is only the tip of the iceberg.

Of course they can't read our p/m's here though ..that's secret, right ?

But hey..I don't know anything. I'm just an old fert biding my time until I can have a sit down with Sgt Nambu.
Worrying about this stuff doesn't help. It's out of our hands now and I personally think no longer reversible.

(But I did hear Stomper uses 4 ply. well...that's what I heard.)

And as such some have theorized that 911 was an inside job to be able to enact these very draconian measures to further clamp down on the American population, one of which the main goals are to slowly and steadily take away everyone's guns and to use the new laws (in creative and deceptive ways) created under the Patriot Act as an excuse to do so.....

But I digress..
Thats just tin hat thinking right?

 

[ZigZagZeke]

But hey..I don't know anything. I'm just an old fert biding my time until I can have a sit down with Sgt Nambu. Worrying about this stuff doesn't help. It's out of our hands now and I personally think no longer reversible. (But I did hear Stomper uses 4 ply. well...that's what I heard.)

I hope that by the time I get there Sgt. Nambu has developed a good source for Irish whiskey and 4-ply. Otherwise I'm going elsewhere.

 

[ob1]

The NSA was collecting data long before either Bush was POTUS.

But yes, the Patriot Act greatly accelerated and facilitated the collection/analysis of the data.

Yes, of course they were collecting data pre-911. That was the main purpose of the agency, to collect and store data for internal security use.
They then forward their pass/fail findings on to other government/military agencies to enable them to fill positions requiring security .clearances. No NSA clearance, no job for you.
That in itself was a big mission. You can't get a job as a janitor in the Pentagon without a pass on an NSA check.
But as you elude to, something happened pre-911. Someone fell asleep at the wheel, or perhaps we just elected the wrong people and now the dam is broken, beyond repair in my opinion.

 

[3MTA3]

Me wonders if they are asking the same questions about oranges, wood screws, socks and bicycle tires? If they are only targeting firearms related goods then this is every bit as sinister as it sounds. If they are preparing for war against half our population then they may not get the desired result.

 

[JustShoot]

Meanwhile, he arms the Taliban with millions worth of weapons and tech. Such a great American.

Millions ?? not even a spit in the bucket . people never ever should forget what he actually did .

Price tag for the Biden Regime being the largest arms delers to terrorism : In total, it adds up to nearly $83+ billion dollars in tax-payer-funded U.S. military equipment .
Plus+ .. A ROOM FULL of an undetermined amount of "CASH"..
Source: GAO analysis of Department of Defense data.
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[Dr Prepper]

My thought. Tack a $.50 "I will not comply fine fee" to my order. (to offset the Mfg's $500 fine ) I'll pay!

My thought: Tack a great big phuq'n GFY! stencil all over the box my ammo ships in...

These gottdamn Leftists and that demented potato need a serious comeuppance...

No then these packages will mysteriously get lost EVERY time.
If anything I want total 100% anonimty. (Or at least as much as possible.)

We should have some generic hazmat item that they stick on all packages. Like 50lbs lithium batteries. Every single time. Ya know.. Kinda like how burden and hunters friends from the far east do it.
And you can always use services like simple logging and privacy.com for burner credit cards. If you REALLY want to you can at least be a real pita for them to track down. Have your non fire arms buddy order all the stuff and deliver it to his house. Offer free sec. Forces if the poop slides for services rendered.