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Much as I am desperately in love with both, I can't honestly recommend a .243 or .257Bob, for elk in the hands of a novice shooter that may have a challenge with bullet placement.
Isn't that backwards? A novice shooter (or anyone else for that matter) is going to have a harder time with bullet placement as recoil increases.
Just say no to ear-splitting brakes on hunting rifles.
Not only do they damage hearing but they seem to have a negative effect the user's spelling capability as well.
I know, weird right ?
Yes, its true. You have to strike that balance between performance and recoil. If the novice has a companion to help keep a cool head and wait for the right shot, those calibers would be adequate. Especially within 200 yards and using monolithic bullets like the Barnes TTSX. The trick with the 257 Roberts is it sits between a short and long action. I prefer it in a long action to be able to match OAL to the chamber specs. But then, might as well have a 25-06.
If I heard an ear splitting break on my rifle, I'd be looking hard to see what broke, so I could repair the brake!Just say no to ear-splitting brakes on hunting rifles.
Not only do they damage hearing but they seem to have a negative effect the user's spelling capability as well.
I know, weird right ?
The 25-06 has considerably more recoil.
Another specific factor in the OP: common, shelf available calibers. While .25-06, which is one of my favorite deer rifles, is more common as both a cartridge and factory rifle chambering than the Bob, .260 or 6.5x55, even it is still a niche cartridge compared to the 7mm-08 or the 6.5CM.
Hey, 7x57mm is my favorite all around cartridge, but I would still suggest those 2 over it for that reason, and I am not even a CM convert.
That's backwards. A novice shooter (or anyone else for that matter) is going to have a harder time with bullet placement as recoil increases.
I wouldn't think she needs any rifle larger than a 6.5 Swede or .260 Remington.
Two words. Hearing loss.
I've used them on hunting rifles as well, if I have the time a pair of earplugs went in, but if I didn't, I didn't notice the extra noise at all behind the rifle.Two words. Dead Elk.
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Brakes are loud. Brakes can damage hearing just as an un-braked highpower rifle can damage hearing (when fired without hearing protection). Hearing protection is becoming more frequently used in the field than in years past, but it is by no means done by the majority of experienced hunters.
Fortunately, a muzzle brake's increase in noise level is noticeably mitigated in the wide open. The hunter with a large unbraked magnum caliber that looks askance (because of decibel levels) at a hunter employing a brake on his more moderate caliber is the classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Both these animals (and numerous others) are dead by reason of a brake employed: During targeting, handloading and practice as well as the shot in the field. In these cases, a brake made the difference.
SOME guides are reported to disfavor them in the field, as it is the guide's ears that are often to the side of a brake. In my time working for an outfitter, no guide I ever met ever mentioned that disfavor (admittedly, brakes were quite uncommon to be seen).
Brakes are also inconsiderate at a public range.
Without exception, EVERY guide I ever met or worked with DID express disfavor toward magnum calibers in the hands of clients who could not shoot them (and most couldn't).
Dismissing brakes out of hand for use in the hunting field (and in the preparation for the hunting field) often is accompanied by no experience with them in that application.
What chamberings were the brakes on?Two words. Dead Elk.
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Brakes are loud. Brakes can damage hearing just as an un-braked highpower rifle can damage hearing (when fired without hearing protection). Hearing protection is becoming more frequently used in the field than in years past, but it is by no means done by the majority of experienced hunters.
Fortunately, a muzzle brake's increase in noise level is noticeably mitigated in the wide open. The hunter with a large unbraked magnum caliber that looks askance (because of decibel levels) at a hunter employing a brake on his more moderate caliber is the classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Both these animals (and numerous others) are dead by reason of a brake employed: During targeting, handloading and practice as well as the shot in the field. In these cases, a brake made the difference.
SOME guides are reported to disfavor them in the field, as it is the guide's ears that are often to the side of a brake. In my time working for an outfitter, no guide I ever met ever mentioned that disfavor (admittedly, brakes were quite uncommon to be seen).
Brakes are also inconsiderate at a public range.
Without exception, EVERY guide I ever met or worked with DID express disfavor toward magnum calibers in the hands of clients who could not shoot them (and most couldn't).
Dismissing brakes out of hand for use in the hunting field (and in the preparation for the hunting field) often is accompanied by no experience with them in that application.