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Rrrrright......

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Aloha, Mark
 
I believe its the laws that were passed a few years ago. WA didn't have the resources to implement them until now. Its all the crap about creating a de-facto registry which a person can never get off of, permanent HIPPA law suspension & annual BCG, etc. to be done by the State patrol (which is what WSP is doing.)


"Initiative 1639 required that DOL, the WSP, and local law enforcement agencies develop a cost-
effective and efficient process for conducting an annual background check for any transferee of
a handgun or semi-automatic rifle (SAR)"

"WSP believes that the program will be fully operational no earlier than January 1, 2024"
 
First, it was private transfers, then it was raising the age limit along with re classifying semi auto rifles into the dubious term, "semi auto assault rifles". More recently, it was mag bans and of course the 1240 malarkey that essentially banned most "black and scary" semi auto rifles.

Let's not forget the long game they are playing of cutting guns out by generational transfer your personal property (guns) as well as preventing transfers between WA citizens within WA, so you're essentially stuck selling to a free state if selling privately.

It's clear WA has done more damage to the 2A in 10 years, than the feds have done in 50 years. Definitely don't plan on retiring here in this political cesspool....
 
And yet we don't seem to have the large lawsuits against the state like OR does. We had the one from Sporting System/Dan and now the one with Gators guns, but thats really it over the past several years.
 
It's clear WA has done more damage to the 2A in 10 years, than the feds have done in 50 years.
Very well stated. It's hard to imagine how much worse it can get before they bump up against unavoidable unconstitutionality. Complete registration they might be able to pass. But confiscation, I don't think they could get that past any US Supreme Court that we can now envision.

Just as bad as limiting the hardware itself, is limiting their use. Such as placing limits on when and where firearms may be taken. And restricting shooting areas. And harassment of gun ranges into extinction. Under these scenarios the utility of guns reduces significantly, especially for recreational users,.

Let's not forget restrictions on ammunition, that may not be too far in the future.
 
Going to court cost's, MONEY. And, fighting state by state can/will get expensive.

The US Constitution is suppose to be THE LAW OF THE LAND.
Rrrrrright.....but as for "UP HOLDING RIGHTS"?
Yeah.....it's apparent, that some POLITICIANS, some AGs, as well as some voters.......well, they just don't agree with that concept.

Aloha, Mark
 
Lesson: whatever you need, buy it now. Beginning 2024 the great screwing begins, and who know how long you'll have to wait until the courts finally correct the socialists (otherwise known as Democrats) in Olympia.
 
I will go through with this if I want to buy a new firearm...'Cause I have to.
Don't like...don't agree with it.
As for buying used from a private party....well there is that word private.
Andy
 
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Well I recently purchased a new handgun and the FFL was using the new system. Purchased on December 19th picked up on the 26th. Honestly was the fastest I have been able to actually pickup a firearm in years. Some FFL's were not releasing firearms after 10-days (store policy and I understand it) I had one approach the 30-day mark due to hiccups with previous background system. This isn't to say I like the new law at all. But the background system at least was better then it was based on my personal experiences. So hopefully now 10-days is the max one has to wait because I waited longer then that under the old system.
 
And yet we don't seem to have the large lawsuits against the state like OR does. We had the one from Sporting System/Dan and now the one with Gators guns, but thats really it over the past several years.
There are 3 magazine lawsuits in WA (2 federal, one state), all at district court phase. These have been adjoined with the 9th circuit under Duncan v Bonta (en banc panel). 3 Semi auto ban (1240), 2 federal 1 state. Federal cases are sitting at the 9th circuit and have adjoined with Miller V Bonta that is set for hearing with a 3 judge panel. Oregon just got more traction at the state level. 1639 is back in the district court on the commerce clause violation, the 18-20 year plaintiffs "aged out" and there are 4 of 5 other age cases way ahead this one. Oregon had one challenge to 114 in federal court, and it's at the 9th circuit now waiting for a 3 judge panel, and then the state court which has locked up 114 implementation substantially.
 

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