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Bad brass?

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by IheartGUNS, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. IheartGUNS

    IheartGUNS WaCo Well-Known Member

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    So I went to the range to sample my ammo that I reloaded, and I had a major jam. The slide was completely stuck with a live round in the chamber. After about 30mins, I was able to move the slide back and eject the round. I pulled out the barrel and dropped the round in the chamber and it got stuck or it didn't even fit all the way down. Is it bad brass or my die isn't setup correctly?
     
  2. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    Was the slide fully foreward? If so the chamber should have sized the brass so that it moved even a tiny bit more free. Is there a bulge? Split? Correct size projectile?
     
  3. IheartGUNS

    IheartGUNS WaCo Well-Known Member

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    Not completely foward but almost. Looks like near the case head there is a bulge. No splits, and correct size bullet.
     
  4. Sheldon

    Sheldon California Member

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    What caliber and what firearms was this in? There are brands of brass out there that are out of spec....AMERC comes to mind. I had some 45 acp brass from them that I reloaded that did the exact same thing to me, because the brass was a little too thick. Could also be the case was not sized enough or even a spec problem with the barrel.
     
  5. IheartGUNS

    IheartGUNS WaCo Well-Known Member

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    9mm glock with a lonewolf barrel. Whats weird is that the ones that didn't bottom out in the lone lonewolf barrel, dropped perfectly in my xd...
     
  6. Sheldon

    Sheldon California Member

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    Sounds like the chamber dimensions on the Lonewolf maybe tighter than the XD....match dimensions maybe. If you actually have a problem with the cases or a reloading technique issue, then you can work on that and you should be fine. If you continue to have an issue with the Lonewolf barrel, then I would either get it reamed out to standard dimensions....assuming it is match chambered, or chamber check all the reloads and keep them labeled so you know what will work reliably in the Lonewolf.

    If you have no need for the potential extra accuracy the match chamber might afford you, reaming is not expensive to have done. A gunsmith with the proper chamber reamer can do it pretty quick. I like reliability more than the small accuracy gain.....but that's me.
     
  7. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    is your Shell holder hitting the bottom of the Die + about 1/8th to 1/4 turn (on the die) ? if not then you might not be resizing the last of the cases just above the base. If your not having any trouble with Store bought ammo this would be the direction I would be looking.
     
  8. XSubSailor

    XSubSailor SW WA Active Member

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    Sounds like a bulged base to me, Do you chamber check or use a case gauge to check your loaded rounds?

    I've had similar issues in the past with a Barsto match barrel in my P226.
     
  9. bmgm37

    bmgm37 Coos Bay Active Member

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    Check your cartridge over all length. Since you can't see any problems with the brass, I suspect OAL which may be a tighter tolerance with the LW barrel.
     
  10. chowser2

    chowser2 seaside Member

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    Lw barrels do have pretty tight tolerances, and the fully support the case unlike the stock barrel.
     
  11. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I don't know how it could have happened with only one round, but if your die was too far down and (taper) crimping too much, it may have bulged the case. Did all your other rounds feed and eject properly?

    If your once fired brass was from a Glock it will most likely have a buldge near the base on one side. If your sizing/depriming die was not set down to the top of the ram with the shell holder in place, it could have left some bulge.

    My Lee dies remove the Glock bulge from .40 just fine.

    Mike
     
  12. speedtriple

    speedtriple Vancouver, Washington, United States Member

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    Probably a bulged case. Get a Wilson case gage and check each round off the press. Or you could pull your barrel out and use it as a gage.

    This problem happens more often with .40 S&W shot from a glock. There are dies available to push the brass ALL the way through and size the absolute full length.
     
  13. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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    If it's just some of the rounds, you might have short stroked the ram during sizing. It is also possible that the web has bulged from being fired in a partially unsupported chamber. I have to use a Redding G-RX die for my 10mm, but that's a straight wall case. IIRC, 9mm has a taper and a push-through die wouldn't help much.


    elsie
     
  14. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    What model gun and what caliber is it?

    If it's a .40SW, a Lee decapping die will run all the way to the bottom and take out any bulge. .40 is quite a high pressure round.

    Glock? Almost all semi-autos have an unsupported area in the chamber. It's the feed ramp. I'll keep posting this until "some" people figure that out. OK, for the millionth time:

    unsupportedchambers5-1.jpg
     
  15. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Gawd I love my HiPower!
     
  16. k7grc

    k7grc Banks, Or Active Member

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    +1
    usually when you seat/crimp
     
  17. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    +1 I posted in another thread that if case lengths vary a lot, you'll get uneven crimps. You're going along just fine and then there's a case which is much longer than others and bingo - you bulge the case...
     
  18. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    Chances are this issue is being caused by the fact that there are no sizing dies that will properly size all the way down to the case head, this is because all size dies need a lead in, and the shell holder.

    There are really two ways to correct this, a push through sizing die (not the best option, but an option nontheless), the best option is roll sizing, however the machinery to do this is somewhat rare, and thus rather expensive. Here is one example: HOME

    Scharch, Camdex and Ammoload also make roll sizing machines, and my business has plans for one. You still need to size the brass after going through this process, it is just for the base/web of the case.