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How do you know it's the ATF vs the guy with the Publisher's Clearing House check?Why would a person even answer the door?
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How do you know it's the ATF vs the guy with the Publisher's Clearing House check?Why would a person even answer the door?
Just leave your dog out front...How do you know it's the ATF vs the guy with the Publisher's Clearing House check?
I'm still waiting for Ed McMahon to show up...How do you know it's the ATF vs the guy with the Publisher's Clearing House check?
Which isnt any different than the ATF paying you a visit for a unregistered DIAS ( the visit part of course) .View attachment 1266072
Let's all take a moment to just step back and appreciate that this is what we have come to in society…federal agents can potentially pay you a visit (or much worse) just because you are, or were, in possession of a piece of machined metal.
The Founding Fathers would be so proud…
Never heard that before. I don't think that would fly. It's not like they are canvassing the neighborhood. Oh wait maybe they are!Is it true that "No Trespassing" signs prevent LE from coming on to your property for a warrant-less "Knock and Talk"?
Perhaps because I didn't waste a stamp by entering the Publisher's Clearing Sweepstakes??How do you know it's the ATF vs the guy with the Publisher's Clearing House check?
Kinda, but not really, and depends too on how your properties curtilage (understood "domain" immediately surrounding your primary dwelling) is established.Is it true that "No Trespassing" signs prevent LE from coming on to your property for a warrant-less "Knock and Talk"?
Whatever point you were trying to make was drowned out by the words of the 2nd Amendment echoing in my head, sorry!Which isnt any different than the ATF paying you a visit for a unregistered DIAS ( the visit part of course) .
Do a little research on what the founding fathers were OK with. Jefferson advocated boring a 1/2" diameter hole through the nose of adulteresses. The punishment for men being MUCH worse at 100 lashes with a whip. This from a guy who repeatedly raped his slave(s).
Washington sent a federal army to Pennsylvania to collect taxes from indigent farmers.
Hamilton? Killed for good reason. Burr wasnt much better.
I guess one additional to remember, without a warrant LEO's have no special authority compelling you to open your door or even respond to their knock/ring... just like any other person.Is it true that "No Trespassing" signs prevent LE from coming on to your property for a warrant-less "Knock and Talk"?
I'm sensing that there could be a market for novelty chew toys that look like a hand holding ATF identification.I should have done a search first, as it's not the case..
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The Court's Holding
Not every entry onto property is a search, and the Court found that the officers were merely trying to engage in voluntary discussions with the Defendant, commonly referred to as "knock-and-talk." There is an implied consent for the public, including police officers, to be able to approach an unobstructed residence and knock on the front door. The "No Trespassing" signs did nothing to revoke this implied consent in this case. However, had the driveway onto the Defendant's property been obstructed with a gate, or some other intended obstacle, it is possible it would have been an unlawful entry.
Conclusion
"No Trespassing" signs by themselves do not make it illegal for police to approach your residence and attempt to speak to you.
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Seems a fence, locked gate, or a Rottweiler in conjunction with signage might be sufficient.
Great idea! How about a fake double barrel shotgun barrels that pop through a hole in the wall when they come to the door/ring the doorbell? Maybe made of rubber or something. I would love to see their response. I suppose a fake hand with middle finger would work too.I'm sensing that there could be a market for novelty chew toys that look like a hand holding ATF identification.
Theyd just shoot.Great idea! How about a fake double barrel shotgun barrels that pop through a hole in the wall when they come to the door/ring the doorbell? Maybe made of rubber or something. I would love to see their response. I suppose a fake hand with middle finger would work too.
Conclusion
"No Trespassing" signs by themselves do not make it illegal for police to approach your residence and attempt to speak to you.
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They can attempt all they want.Duh. Should have known that. If it were that easy everyone would do it.
I'm no lawyer, but I doubt it makes any difference since the FRT is now redefined as a MG component and no grandfather clause exists. From what I understand, all FRT's being confiscated where ALL legally purchased... at the time... and ALL are subject to confiscation attempts regardless of purchase date or where you purchased it from.so what if someone bought a RBT before the july 2021 cease and desist letter? before that, buyers had every reason to believe these triggers were legal and to buy them in good faith. i can see buyers before july 2021 being protected by ex post facto or an attorney arguing that the consumer was misled by the MFG.