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OK brainiacs, if I buy a thompson center contender frame/receiver used, what is it? A pistol or a rifle? Or an "other"?
It makes sense that it would be "other" or formally "any other weapon" but not everything makes sense in the .gov world! Upon reflection it probably is defined as whatever barrel gets attached to the receiver just like what happens when you modify a flare gun into a pistol, rifle, or shotgun. At the time that the weapon is looked at by .gov. probably has a lot to do with it. Compare that to a rifle that is black powder and was converted to fire modern shells. I know it's not apples to apples in this case but it is a classification change.OK brainiacs, if I buy a thompson center contender frame/receiver used, what is it? A pistol or a rifle? Or an "other"?
A pistol made from a rifle is an SBR unless it was originally a pistol. A rifle made from a gun that was originally a pistol can be reconfigured into a pistol. Obviously a person has to be careful when switching back and forth. Some states also prohibit going back to a pistol from a rifle even if it was originally a pistol.
"Any other weapon" is a completely different legal category than "other." There are multiple legal issues being debated in this thread, and not competently. These posts mix and match concepts, confuse lack of enforcement with clear legality, and assume the government can prosecute based on what the law intended versus what the law says (sometimes the government gets away with that sometimes it doesn't). Hopefully nobody is making decisions in their legal affairs based on what is written in this thread, or any other.It makes sense that it would be "other" or formally "any other weapon" but not everything makes sense in the .gov world! Upon reflection it probably is defined as whatever barrel gets attached to the receiver just like what happens when you modify a flare gun into a pistol, rifle, or shotgun. At the time that the weapon is looked at by .gov. probably has a lot to do with it. Compare that to a rifle that is black powder and was converted to fire modern shells. I know it's not apples to apples in this case but it is a classification change.
And that would not be illegal, so nobody would care.I meant if you had a pistol, threw a rifle upper on it, and then changed it back to a pistol, there is absolutely no way anyone would even know you did that. I don't have a dog in the fight, hat just seems ridiculous
^^^ This is what the "designer drug" chemists did to avoid the bans on drugs which were outlawed by statute. Changed it to a different drug but with the same effects. Then Congress and the FDA and DEA would add those to the ban. Then the game of cat and mouse continued.
Rifling and firing pin marks from upper used in murder. In his example he was in possession of upper when the cops showed up. Maybe anonymous tip came in suggesting he had the murder weapon.You simply watch way too much TV. That is such a far stretch it's almost not worth saying anything. Explain to me how the LEO's could possibly trace a non-numbered upper receiver to you?
"BINGO"...............this is what happened in the early 80's and real "crack" was made. Not cocaine free basing rocks but actual Crack. Crack and Cocaine are 2 different drugs entirely. Crack is man made drug with one or 2 elements either left out or changed try to skirt the cocaine laws. Cocaine comes from the Coca plant that only grows above 3,000 ft. But thanx to the media and mass phcycology every single night saying the phrase "Crack Cocaine". Everybody thinks it's all the same thing. Not true. When actual crack came out on the streets. It was kinda a yellow color to it and was nick named cat piss rocks. I have first hand experience with and my sister being addicted for many years. Plus unlike Cocaine, Crack can not be crushed up in to a powder to snort. It is too hard and can only be smoked.
The State of Washington requires a State dealers license, issued by local enforcement, issued annually. Clark County for us.
I didn't know this. I wonder why the dealer I quoted doesn't take this into consideration. State requires the license but issuing authority are the county sheriffs. Does this set-up result in any administrative oversight? Do state or county sheriff auditors routinely check dealers books? Or is this mainly a way to cause payment of a fee? Or results in gotcha type prosecution at random?
I read through the RCW that addresses this license. I noted that it provides for dealers to sell away from their premises, typically at gun shows but stipulates that those events be sponsored by certain organizations. Does that mean that private, commercial gun shows technically aren't an authorized venue for license holders?
That is not what crack is at all. Crack is cocaine hydrochloride that is converted to a stable free base crystallized form by reduction with typically a bicarbonate . You start with cocaine and go from there. Same stuff but "purer". It never was legal. You may be thinking of the early 80's cat and mouse game that was being done with derivatives of MDMA designer drugs.