Apple has people listening to you.......This is creepy

[Member 34319]

I can hear the advertisement now:

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Siri doesn't have a response algorithm to, "fap fap fap"....

My new screen name.

 

[Rickenbacher39]

Anyone that does not know by now that Apple, Google and the rest of that ilk listen
to every word you say has been in a coma.
I do not buy Apple, I do not buy Google and I am not so lonely that I need a machine
in the house to talk to.
I use DuckDuckGo on my computer and will avoid anything Google when possible.

Which reminds me of an old joke:

Do you know how to shear sheep"
Bring out a new iPhone every year and charge $1000 for it.

 

[Member 34319]

Anyone that does not know by now that Apple, Google and the rest of that ilk listen
to every word you say has been in a coma.
I do not buy Apple, I do not buy Google and I am not so lonely that I need a machine
in the house to talk to.
I use DuckDuckGo on my computer and will avoid anything Google when possible.

Which reminds me of an old joke:

Do you know how to shear sheep"
Bring out a new iPhone every year and charge $1000 for it.

Owning a computer, or cell phone, to some extent is the same thing. Just because you don't use certain software, doesn't mean you are not connected to the web or cellular systems.

 

[Member 5605]

The surprising fact is that people don't do this already. I do.

Emphasis mine.

In the meantime, I would advise all concerned iPhone and iPad owners to make the following changes: Settings > Privacy > Analytics & Improvement > Improve Siri & Dictation and check it is off, then Settings > Siri & Search > Siri History and tap 'Delete Siri & Dictation History'. To enable further restrictions, such as revoking location tracking and third-party app integration with Siri, read Apple's Ask Siri, Dictation & Privacy page.

Sheep being surprised that their wool is being sold and tracked. Be the woolly sheep with nothing to hide because you know when the shearer cometh and you have gone to another field.

A little wisdom and alertness pays off greatly.

 

[sobo]

The surprising fact is that people don't do this already. I do.

Emphasis mine.

In the meantime, I would advise all concerned iPhone and iPad owners to make the following changes: Settings > Privacy > Analytics & Improvement > Improve Siri & Dictation and check it is off, then Settings > Siri & Search > Siri History and tap 'Delete Siri & Dictation History'. To enable further restrictions, such as revoking location tracking and third-party app integration with Siri, read Apple's Ask Siri, Dictation & Privacy page.

I have been doing this with every software release and phone upgrade since about 2010, just to make sure that the upgrade didn't turn it back on.

 

[sobo]

I do not buy Apple, I do not buy Google and I am not so lonely that I need a machine
in the house to talk to.

What phone do you use?

 

[Rickenbacher39]

What phone do you use?

My wife's...................

 

[sobo]

...with so many people just sure everyone cares what they are saying.

For me, it's not that I care that anyone cares what I'm saying. It's the principle that someone feels they have to spy on me in the first place is what chaps my butt.
Whether it's the gub'mint, Big Tech, or even my neighbor doesn't matter to me. They all need to STFU and get their nosey asses out of my life.

 

[2A2Dend]

Siri nor Alexa can play the flute.
They're gone.

 

[Hueco]

I have been doing this with every software release and phone upgrade since about 2010, just to make sure that the upgrade didn't turn it back on.

I have to turn off iCloud every update...as if the fact that I've never used it wasn't hint enough. They try really hard to get you to upload all your goodies.

 

[Hueco]

Every time I hear this stuff all I get is a big yawn. How many phones are there in the US? Apple is not the only one doing this, they all do or can. So how many people would they need to hire to try to listen to even 1% of this traffic? If I was some kind of large scale criminal I may worry a little about it. What they hear from me, if they chose to listen? There is just too many people here for them to bother with. I think a lot of people who "think" someone is spying on them either can't really get their head around how many of us there are, or they think they are far more important than they really are. If they were listening to all this why is there any crime? They could be stopping it all before it happened. So instead of doing that they are listening in on my talking to the wife? I mean come on people. I guess if someone is really just sure they are being listened too they could buy or make a Faraday cage for the damn phone for when they did not want to use it? Suspect someone will be selling one if they have not already. Should be a good market for them with so many people just sure everyone cares what they are saying.

That's immaterial. The contractor was hired to check information and classification of that info. So, you're talking about a gun you bought and the system organizes it into:
Item: Gun
ItemName: Glock19
YourName:...
FFLname:
Etc.
Etc.

The contractor is confirming the system's ability to glean and organize useful information from conversation.

Doesn't matter if a human only listens to 0.001% of the conversation if they're confirming the AI's ability to get at the other 99.999%.

End of the day, it's still a profile about you that you never consented to.

 

[coop44]

 

[Capn Jack]

Then there was the @$#&*! Windows 10, "UP DATE" that deleted my password and locked me out of my new computer.

 

[Member 5605]

I use DuckDuckGo on my computer and will avoid anything Google when possible.

That's cool.
Who's your ISP?

I can go deep down that rabbit hole if you'd like, nobody is immune. Maybe you use a VPN? What is their policy? Who are their partners? What is their partners policies? Who shares the cookies on your browser? Your web browser?

Somebody is tracking. Any simple internet access is logged and tracked, it doesn't matter how secure you think you are unless you use a Tor browser and that isn't for normal web surfing.

Internet access is like an onion, you are in the middle and what you seek is the paper layer on the outside. Everyone else in the middle is a vulnerability.

 

[Hueco]

Then there was the @$#&*! Windows 10, "UP DATE" that deleted my password and locked me out of my new computer.

That wasn't a Windows update. That was a Trojan that downloaded while you were browsing shady porn sites and pretended to be an update.

 

[sobo]

Oh, is that was that was...

 

[Member 34319]

That's cool.
Who's your ISP?

I can go deep down that rabbit hole if you'd like, nobody is immune. Maybe you use a VPN? What is their policy? Who are their partners? What is their partners policies? Who shares the cookies on your browser? Your web browser?

Somebody is tracking. Any simple internet access is logged and tracked, it doesn't matter how secure you think you are unless you use a Tor browser and that isn't for normal web surfing.

Internet access is like an onion, you are in the middle and what you seek is the paper layer on the outside. Everyone else in the middle is a vulnerability.

This. This. This.

Folks using services that they think are protecting them likely aren't.

Unless you fully understand the framework of the web or are part of the people coding the latest updates to Google's algorithms, your just a user. Every user is tracked to some extent.

Don't like it?

Don't use the web or cell phones.

 

[Knebel]

I don't understand this "they can listen, I have nothing to hide" mentality. Would you leave your frontdoor wide open and let random people in to go through your stuff too?

 

[sobo]

^^^^ THIS!!! ^^^^

 

[CLT65]

Personally I'm not worried that "they" are spying on me and are out to get me. I literally have nothing to hide. I'm about as squeaky clean as they come. I've never done drugs, hung out with criminals, or plotted to overthrow the govt, and I never will. I've never even been drunk. I would be just about the most boring person in the world to spy on.

That said, it's the principal of it for me too. When you're in the bathroom, you normally close the door, right? Everyone knows what you're doing in there; you have nothing to hide. It's not secret, but it is private, and it should be.

Suppose the local police knocked on your door. They're doing a complementary audit of houses in the neighborhood, and want to come in, walk through and check that you are being safe and following all the rules.

I'm personally quite confident that I'd do fine if such a thing were forced on me, as that's how we live anyhow, but would I voluntarily consent to such an invasion of my privacy? Absolutely not. Just like the fact that all my firearms are completely legal and safely stored. Why object to registering them, then? What I have is my own business, in my opinion.

I actually have had state and federal law enforcement officers in my house at one time or another, looking through my safe and examining my guns. Not in an official capacity though, personal friends over for a visit, talking guns and such.