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Seems like this is really catching on in Europe. I noticed several brands using boron-nitride micro particles in their formulations. Even Ballistol has a ceramic enhanced version now in Europe.
This hasn't caught on yet in the states but it's just a matter of time imo. Bicycle lubes such as finish line are going from a Teflon formulation to a ceramic plus Teflon formulation. Also muc-off c3 seems to be leading the way in the bicycle chain lube/general lube world.
ipsc website has a Italian?/Dutch? made lube in various concentrations (3 different types) of Boron-Nitride for competition.
There is one on Amazon that is a us company made but it's crazy expensive for a tiny amount and to me their marketing seems deceptive (Ie it promises too much, it's not realistic Imo).
So far I have only used liquid-moly ceratec, which is formulated for car engines as a friction modifier (think of how moly works, it's similar to that it binds to the metal creating a slippery surface over time) mainly because that is all I could find. It did work wonders for turbo spool up time in my car (takes about 400 miles plus to work). I have experimented with various oils on these engines for many years working with the former head of Exxon Mobil's advanced research lab so I know what to look for and turbo spool up is a fast indicator of lubricity on these engines. On guns I put on the ceratec and it makes things incredibly slippery but haven't used it enough to know how many cycles it needs to run before it's really effective, how effective it is "wet" vs dry (ie carrier oil mostly evaporated) etc.
I did order some gun-specific dry ceramic lube from a Swiss company though so we'll see how that does.
The one I want to really try is that Italian? IPSC lube (can't remember brand name if anyone is curious I can find it). Their top line is 60% boron nitride and the one below that is a mix of boron nitride and Teflon .
I think this is going to be the next wave of gun lube and in 5 years (or sooner) all the best gun lubes will contain boron-nitride "nano particles" or whatever you want to call it. The properties are outstanding and protect up to 1150 degree F as I recall (edit: I noticed the ballistol can says 1000C, or 1832 degrees F).
Here is a pic of the ballistol one and muc-off. I can dig up the names/sites of the others I found in my rabbit hole research if anyone is interested. Edit: As I recall there were 1-2 small us makers too but not sure. Those were very small not common name brand companies.
This hasn't caught on yet in the states but it's just a matter of time imo. Bicycle lubes such as finish line are going from a Teflon formulation to a ceramic plus Teflon formulation. Also muc-off c3 seems to be leading the way in the bicycle chain lube/general lube world.
ipsc website has a Italian?/Dutch? made lube in various concentrations (3 different types) of Boron-Nitride for competition.
There is one on Amazon that is a us company made but it's crazy expensive for a tiny amount and to me their marketing seems deceptive (Ie it promises too much, it's not realistic Imo).
So far I have only used liquid-moly ceratec, which is formulated for car engines as a friction modifier (think of how moly works, it's similar to that it binds to the metal creating a slippery surface over time) mainly because that is all I could find. It did work wonders for turbo spool up time in my car (takes about 400 miles plus to work). I have experimented with various oils on these engines for many years working with the former head of Exxon Mobil's advanced research lab so I know what to look for and turbo spool up is a fast indicator of lubricity on these engines. On guns I put on the ceratec and it makes things incredibly slippery but haven't used it enough to know how many cycles it needs to run before it's really effective, how effective it is "wet" vs dry (ie carrier oil mostly evaporated) etc.
I did order some gun-specific dry ceramic lube from a Swiss company though so we'll see how that does.
The one I want to really try is that Italian? IPSC lube (can't remember brand name if anyone is curious I can find it). Their top line is 60% boron nitride and the one below that is a mix of boron nitride and Teflon .
I think this is going to be the next wave of gun lube and in 5 years (or sooner) all the best gun lubes will contain boron-nitride "nano particles" or whatever you want to call it. The properties are outstanding and protect up to 1150 degree F as I recall (edit: I noticed the ballistol can says 1000C, or 1832 degrees F).
Here is a pic of the ballistol one and muc-off. I can dig up the names/sites of the others I found in my rabbit hole research if anyone is interested. Edit: As I recall there were 1-2 small us makers too but not sure. Those were very small not common name brand companies.
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