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There is no chance that I will join the NRA. I use their credentials, but they are far too deluded for me to join.
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ALL GUN OWNERS MUST JOIN THE NRA!
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join one of em or lobby yourself or both.Do the form letter from rugar and horndy write your own .Get your cpl.Do all of it, all they know is numbers if they know they will never hold office again after attacking our rights then it wont happen.All the folks on here that are Dem gun owners you voice is louder than most of ours.If dems don't vote for gun grabbers no one would (just sayin')
guess you like to spread the wealth too
how have they helped your 2nd A. right :huh: when have they showed up in any court to argue against gun control?
enjoy the ride
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I thank no man for my God given rights. If I owe anyone my allegiance, its the authors of the second amendment and our constitution. I'm tired of gun owners telling me what I have to join. I am a member of GOA, but that was my choice.
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One thing is obvious - Obama has singled out the NRA to blame and attack for opposing his liberal anti-gun agenda. That should tell us something. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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NRA President David Keene
I think he gets the second amendment.
Positive, hopeful and a breath of fresh air.
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Sometimes I think people forget the NRA is so large because there are many, many gun owners that support it and need that big of a voice to actually make any impact in our government and in the national community. I support and am a member of the NRA, and I have to say I have appreciated the extra effort and emails they've been sending out lately- it makes it a ton easier for me to email state reps and thank them for defending the 2nd Amendment or telling reps they're not getting my vote if they choose pro-ban decisions.
Now, sometimes they do some bullheaded stuff or make silly advertisements, but overall I think they do a fine job and deserve our support as gun owners.
As far as Ruger goes, they have 2nd amendment letters you can draft on their website to send out to congressmen. It might not be a whole lot but it is something. Different companies do different things to get gun owners to participate in the fight for gun rights.
Now, sometimes they do some bullheaded stuff or make silly advertisements, but overall I think they do a fine job and deserve our support as gun owners.
As far as Ruger goes, they have 2nd amendment letters you can draft on their website to send out to congressmen. It might not be a whole lot but it is something. Different companies do different things to get gun owners to participate in the fight for gun rights.
I agree with that and have used the Ruger letter but that would not help in court when they are discussing gun bans/control like the NRA does. also how many of these companies still support law enforcement that restrict gun ownership? if doing so that doesn't show they are pro second Admemment it just shows they are playing both sides for the $ compared to the couple that have stepped up to the plate and said no civilian guns then no law enforcement guns.
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Can we say ethics?
I don't appreciate the NRA saying my industry is to blame for Newtown. Games, really. What next, suffrage and electricity are to blame for teen pregnancy? Wayne is good at making puppets dance and pay. Which is what politicians do. Politicians can't call everyone who does it a terrorist, so they attack those outside of their buddy club.drew said:
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Here's what guys on another forum are doing to, er, "share the ride" on a Pay it forward kind of thing.
Pretty clever actually.
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I'm curious about the guy using NRA credentials without joining. How does one do that without being something of a faker?
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They do better than that... They make money and pay taxes. Also, I'm certain they are all invested in the NRA, in lobbying, and in whatever it is they can do to get Washington on their side.
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Whenever there was a fight there were always those unwilling to risk their lives, let alone a couple a bucks.
like I said you can't get up off the couch. you let someone else pull your weight while you enjoy the bennies
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I get up off the couch all the time to protect my ability to own and use my firearms. I could easily send money to the NRA from the comfort of my couch. I see it as the lazy way to do it, and I will not donate to a lobbying organization of any kind. I heavily support the Industry, the industry will do its own lobbying.
All the NRA members (and other organizations) STILL need to be active, pay attention and send letters. I see too many folks who say "the NRA is taking care of it" do nothing! Don't just join and stop being active. Flood these "legislators" with your comments! Keep ranges and outdoor shooting areas clean! Protect yourself! Hunt! ETC! And most importantly, go shoot some more, so you can clean your toys!!!
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1. The NRA was originally not a civil rights organization.
The NRA was founded in 1871 after the Civil War by Army and Navy Journal editor William Conant Church and General George Wood Wingate of the Union Army, who were both dismayed at the horrible accuracy of Union soldiers during the Civil War. The original purpose of the organization was for rifle marksmanship training. However despite this, the NRA is the oldest civil rights organization in the United States.
2. The NRA has a history of being for gun control.
In 1934, the NRA supported the National Firearms Act, which served to regulate and tax firearms that were considered used by gangsters at the time. They also supported the Gun Control Act of 1968, which expanded on the system to license firearm dealers and prohibit criminals and those with mental impairments from owning firearms.
3. The NRA has a history of supporting the Civil Rights Movement.
While African Americans were being terrorized by the Ku Klux Klan, where the Klan were sometimes aided by local law enforcement, the NRA setup charters to help train local African American communities to be able protect themselves. The most prominent case being in 1960 in Monroe, N.C. where the local National Association for the Advancement of Colored People head Robert Williams also chartered an NRA Rifle Club that successfully defended an assault on one of their leader's homes by the KKK without casualties.
4. The NRA is active in wildlife conservation.
The NRA supports wildlife conservation through efforts to open lands up to managed hunting. For example, under the Pittman-Robertson Act of 1937, proceeds obtained through a tax on hunting firearms and ammo were used specifically to research and rebuild a vast array of wildlife species and habitats. Today, the NRA continues to seek expansion on these measures. It's worth noting that the proceeds from taxes and licensing go to support the governmental agencies charged with environmental research and conservation management, as "little funding comes from taxes paid by the general public."
5. The NRA offers extensive firearms training programs.
The organization offers training programs for civilians as well as law enforcement. The training programs offered are even recognized by law enforcement as acceptable to fulfill the training requirement for concealed carry licenses (CCW). Today, the NRA has trained over 10,000 police and security firearm instructors and 55,000 certified instructors who in turn train roughly 750,000 people a year.
7. A majority of Americans have a favorable image of the NRA.
According to a recent Gallup poll, 54% of Americans hold a favorable view of the NRA, while 38% have an unfavorable view. Putting this in perspective, a more recent Gallup poll shows President Obama holds a 51% approval rating, while 43% disapprove.
8. The NRA has 3 seperate organizations.
The NRA has three separate bodies. The NRA of America is mainly concerned with promoting training, education, and safety. The NRA-ILA is the lobbying arm of the organization. And the NRA Foundation is the the charitable arm of the organization.
9. Funding for the NRA might surprise you
According to FactCheck.org, nearly half of the funding for the NRA comes from membership dues alone. Voluntary donations to the NRA, however, still account for a majority portion of the remaining funding. This includes voluntary donations made during gun purchases at the point of sale as well as programs like the "round-up" campaign, operated by the NRA-ILA and retailers, where consumers can round a purchase up to the nearest dollar for donation to support lobbying efforts. With that said, gun manufacturers do donate to the NRA as well. For example, Sturm, Ruger, and Co., ran the "Million Gun Challenge" in 2011, which directly ties gun sales to donations with the target being one million dollars.
10. Current stance on gun Control
The NRA's current stance on gun control is to enforce existing laws more aggressively. In 2008, in response to the Virgina Tech shooting, the NRA helped to pass the "NICS Improvement Act," which would provide increased funding and grants to states to report vital information to the National Instant Background Check System (NICS), such as mental health. The NICS is used for background checks of potential gun buyers. Unfortunately, the system has been woefully underfunded (receiving only 5.3% of the authorized funding) and reporting has been lackluster. In addition, the NRA has pointed out that those who lie on their background checks when purchasing firearms are for the most part not prosecuted. In response to this, Vice President Biden claimed that they "don't have the time" to prosecute such violations, which, by the way, carries a minimum 5 year federal sentence, if convicted under the Gun Control Act.
1. The NRA was originally not a civil rights organization.
The NRA was founded in 1871 after the Civil War by Army and Navy Journal editor William Conant Church and General George Wood Wingate of the Union Army, who were both dismayed at the horrible accuracy of Union soldiers during the Civil War. The original purpose of the organization was for rifle marksmanship training. However despite this, the NRA is the oldest civil rights organization in the United States.
2. The NRA has a history of being for gun control.
In 1934, the NRA supported the National Firearms Act, which served to regulate and tax firearms that were considered used by gangsters at the time. They also supported the Gun Control Act of 1968, which expanded on the system to license firearm dealers and prohibit criminals and those with mental impairments from owning firearms.
3. The NRA has a history of supporting the Civil Rights Movement.
While African Americans were being terrorized by the Ku Klux Klan, where the Klan were sometimes aided by local law enforcement, the NRA setup charters to help train local African American communities to be able protect themselves. The most prominent case being in 1960 in Monroe, N.C. where the local National Association for the Advancement of Colored People head Robert Williams also chartered an NRA Rifle Club that successfully defended an assault on one of their leader's homes by the KKK without casualties.
4. The NRA is active in wildlife conservation.
The NRA supports wildlife conservation through efforts to open lands up to managed hunting. For example, under the Pittman-Robertson Act of 1937, proceeds obtained through a tax on hunting firearms and ammo were used specifically to research and rebuild a vast array of wildlife species and habitats. Today, the NRA continues to seek expansion on these measures. It's worth noting that the proceeds from taxes and licensing go to support the governmental agencies charged with environmental research and conservation management, as "little funding comes from taxes paid by the general public."
5. The NRA offers extensive firearms training programs.
The organization offers training programs for civilians as well as law enforcement. The training programs offered are even recognized by law enforcement as acceptable to fulfill the training requirement for concealed carry licenses (CCW). Today, the NRA has trained over 10,000 police and security firearm instructors and 55,000 certified instructors who in turn train roughly 750,000 people a year.
7. A majority of Americans have a favorable image of the NRA.
According to a recent Gallup poll, 54% of Americans hold a favorable view of the NRA, while 38% have an unfavorable view. Putting this in perspective, a more recent Gallup poll shows President Obama holds a 51% approval rating, while 43% disapprove.
8. The NRA has 3 seperate organizations.
The NRA has three separate bodies. The NRA of America is mainly concerned with promoting training, education, and safety. The NRA-ILA is the lobbying arm of the organization. And the NRA Foundation is the the charitable arm of the organization.
9. Funding for the NRA might surprise you
According to FactCheck.org, nearly half of the funding for the NRA comes from membership dues alone. Voluntary donations to the NRA, however, still account for a majority portion of the remaining funding. This includes voluntary donations made during gun purchases at the point of sale as well as programs like the "round-up" campaign, operated by the NRA-ILA and retailers, where consumers can round a purchase up to the nearest dollar for donation to support lobbying efforts. With that said, gun manufacturers do donate to the NRA as well. For example, Sturm, Ruger, and Co., ran the "Million Gun Challenge" in 2011, which directly ties gun sales to donations with the target being one million dollars.
10. Current stance on gun Control
The NRA's current stance on gun control is to enforce existing laws more aggressively. In 2008, in response to the Virgina Tech shooting, the NRA helped to pass the "NICS Improvement Act," which would provide increased funding and grants to states to report vital information to the National Instant Background Check System (NICS), such as mental health. The NICS is used for background checks of potential gun buyers. Unfortunately, the system has been woefully underfunded (receiving only 5.3% of the authorized funding) and reporting has been lackluster. In addition, the NRA has pointed out that those who lie on their background checks when purchasing firearms are for the most part not prosecuted. In response to this, Vice President Biden claimed that they "don't have the time" to prosecute such violations, which, by the way, carries a minimum 5 year federal sentence, if convicted under the Gun Control Act.
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