Alec Baldwin Fires Prop Gun that Kills Individual on Movie Set

[Kruel J]

Even the ones where he is the bad guy and dies violently? I kinda like "Mercury Rising".

Hunt for Red October is a great movie regardless.

 

[Kruel J]

i cant bring myself to reread almost 40 pages of this stuff... mind sharing again?

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oh man this threads a goddamn trip. dude aint gonna be charged w anything. hes probably not guilty of anything except being a goddamn hypocritical anti-gun dick licker, but even if he was guilty, aint nobody charging him. the retainer he paid his lawyer is more than the local sheriff's annual budget. you know, rich people bubblegum.

in all the arguing on this tho... pointing guns and pulling triggers... that he should never have pointed a gun at a person and pull the trigger, cuz thats NEVER ok....

did you guys not ever slap blank firing adapters on your m16s and shoot the bubblegum out of your own company battle buddies?

yes, sometimes you absolutely do point real guns at real people and pull the trigger and dont intent to kill anyone and its 100% legal and in that case, even fuppin required of you.

what do you think my drill sergeant would have said if i was like "but bruh, them four rules, dawg..."

Good post.

 

[Caveman Jim]

No, I mean you're posting at 100 MPH, repeating yourself over and over, throwing accusations around. Maybe I have you mixed up with someone else, but I remember you being more polite and measured.

Or has that Clan guy taken over your account?

Is JR back at it or another troll???

 

[ZigZagZeke]

You got an extra zero on there.

I was trying to be charitable.

 

[Gunner3456]

Update on Baldwin and a couple of vids.

Alec Baldwin Laying Low in Vermont as Shooting Case Unfolds - Breaking911

After the fatal ‘Rust’ shooting, Alec Baldwin is in seclusion with his family in Manchester, Vermont, where his wife, Hilaria, reportedly has deep roots. He tweeted an article that pointed blame for the fatal shooting at assistant director David Halls, who admitted he should have inspected each...

breaking911.com

 

[ZigZagZeke]

Update on Baldwin and a couple of vids.

Alec Baldwin Laying Low in Vermont as Shooting Case Unfolds - Breaking911

After the fatal ‘Rust’ shooting, Alec Baldwin is in seclusion with his family in Manchester, Vermont, where his wife, Hilaria, reportedly has deep roots. He tweeted an article that pointed blame for the fatal shooting at assistant director David Halls, who admitted he should have inspected each...

breaking911.com

It doesn't matter what he was told. I worked in an industry with clearance and lockout procedures for 20 years. A paper tag was all the stood between us and instant, unpleasant death. I personally checked every valve, switch, and breaker before hanging my tag and beginning work. It would have been easier to take somebody's word for it, but just like in this workplace incident, I was responsible for my own safety. No blame shifting allowed.

 

[Gunner3456]

Vermont gun group leader says Alec Baldwin ‘broke every single rule of basic firearm safety’

Eric Davis, president of Gun Owners of Vermont, has publicly blamed Alec Baldwin for his deadly on-set shooting.

nypost.com

 

[RVTECH]

Update on Baldwin and a couple of vids.

And the following spoken like a true anti gun lib:

He tweeted an article that pointed blame for the fatal shooting at assistant director David Halls,

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Dear Mr. Baldwin ,
It would be wise for you to STFU and let your lawyer speak for you.

It is best to remain silent and be thought an idiot...then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Andy

 

[sobo]

2 stories:

Veteran Prop Master Refused Job on Alec Baldwin Film Due to Safety Concerns
https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...-on-alec-baldwin-film-due-to-safety-concerns/


Does Alec Baldwin Deserve Decency?

Does Alec Baldwin Deserve Decency?

townhall.com

I mean, the pilot of the helicopter in the Twilight Zone movie deserved decency despite decapitating an actor and killing two children.

No, Alec Baldwin does not deserve decency. The helicopter pilot on the Twilight Zone set does.
By what twisted trail of logic do you equate these two very disparate fatal incidents?

In the case of the Twilight Zone movie, a pyrotechnic sequence went awry, causing debris to be sent into the tail rotor of the aircraft. That debris damaged the tail rotor, causing the aircraft to crash, which in turn led to the aircraft's main rotor decapitating Vic Morrow and killing the two kids. If it's anyone's fault, blame should lie with the designer of the pyrotechnic sequence, the safety person, and the producers of the movie. Yet, in your mind this is somehow the pilot's fault?

Given all the poor attention to safety on set in general, and gun safety failures in particular, on the Rust set (I need not list them, as we are all quite well aware of them after 38 pages), Alec Baldwin takes a gun that is ostensibly unloaded, and ends up squeezing the trigger, discharging a round that hits two people, killing one. If it's anyone fault, the blame should lie with the armorer (who didn't do her job), the assistant director who handed him the gun claiming it was cold (who didn't check), the person who pulled the trigger, and the producers. In this calculation, Alec Baldwin scores 2 points out of the 4 available...

No, I do not think he deserves any decency.

 

[red442joe]

"Its a movie set. People point guns at each other and pull triggers. "
Ummm, do they?
Or, through the magic of movie making, does it only LOOK like they point guns at each other?
I honestly don't know. I saw a movie where guys punched each other...the "making of" feature showed how they LOOKED like they were punching each other.

Joe

 

[DirectDrive]

Industry pros have posted that correct technique for the actor in a shooting scene is to point the gun at an off angle.
The idea is to never have the muzzle cover anyone on the set.
It's crystal clear that Baldwin did not follow proper procedure.
For that reason, he should lose some hide.

 

[titsonritz]

Hunt for Red October is a great movie regardless.

It is my favorite of the Jack Ryan movies, but then I'm a sucker for a submarine movie.

 

[titsonritz]

Industry pros have posted that correct technique for the actor in a shooting scene is to point the gun at an off angle.
The idea is to never have the muzzle cover anyone on the set.
It's crystal clear that Baldwin did not follow proper procedure.
For that reason, he should lose some hide.

^^^This

 

[DirectDrive]

It is my favorite of the Jack Ryan movies, but then I'm a sucker for a submarine movie.

If you haven't already, watch the "Hell Below" collection.
Actual war patrols reenacted.
Best I've ever seen.

 

[Nutty4Guns]

 

[sobo]

AND not that it really matters but the 24 YO 'armorer' was previoulsy involved in another act of stupidity just last year:

"Rusted" Armorer Insurance Company Pays $ 50,000 Settlement for A Friend's Fatal Accident - Florida News Times

Hannah Gutierrez-Lead The woman at the center of the “rust” death investigation has also recently been linked to the death of her best friend, and her insurance company has paid a fortune to his family. According to a legal document obtained by Reed’s friend TMZ Tyler DierDied in an accident in...

floridanewstimes.com

WhoTF wrote that article, a second grader??? My God, trying to decipher the grammar and syntax gave me a headache...

 

[titsonritz]

If you haven't already, watch the "Hell Below" collection.
Actual war patrols reenacted.
Best I've ever seen.

The Smithsonian thing? I've heard of it but haven't seen it

 

[sobo]

What was different on this set was "due to Covid restrictions" all non-essential people were kept off the set. Including the safety people. The guns were not secured at all times by the Armorer and staff. they were left on a open cart and picked up by the assistant director. It also does not seem that the armorer kept them secured while off the set. And that twice before a gun with a problem was used. it had twice had an AD during a scene.

COVID restrictions be damned, I would argue that "safety people" would be essential personnel for a scene utilizing a firearm...

 

[RVTECH]

Or, through the magic of movie making, does it only LOOK like they point guns at each other?

OR - due to complete ignorance and the possibility of a complete detachment with reality due to being an actor did he (as I mentioned before) possibly, intentionally point the gun at the lady because of some childlike regression of maybe playing with toy guns in the past?