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ACOGs For Close Enemies?

Discussion in 'Gear & Accessories' started by RedneckRampage, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. RedneckRampage

    RedneckRampage Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I know the military uses ACOGs on many of their M16s, which they use for clearing buildings and houses, but it would seem to me that the 3x would make it hard if say your target was 10' away.. Anybody have any experience with using then inside 10 yards or so?
     
  2. CatCow

    CatCow Portland, OR Active Member

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    That's what BAC(Bindon Aiming Concept) is for. Open both eyes and use the floating blob of color to aim at close distances. Of course this doesn't help if you have a TA01...
     
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  3. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    If that means your giving close enemies ACOG's, I will be a close enemy.
     
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  4. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    Don't the ACOG's also have a set of irons up top for close in work?
     
  5. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    The TA01NSN does, but the ACOG's with fiber-lit reticles typically don't.

    For ACOG's without irons, well-funded shooters can always mount a RMR on top of their ACOG's. I'm thinking about doing that for my 3.5x ACOG.
     
  6. eldbillbo

    eldbillbo clackamas New world samurai and a redneck none the less Bronze Supporter

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    What Cat cow said

    you can also put a flip cap on it and use it as a red dot with both eyes open but if you train your eyes its not necessary.
     
  7. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I run a ACOG, but at 10 yds. or less it's just a point and shoot unless you need a head shot.
     
  8. Navvet

    Navvet Lynden, WA Active Member

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    10 yards, point shoot
     
  9. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    You can train yourself point and shoot at close range. You can add 45 offset red-dot or add piggyback red-dot sight on Acog.
     
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  10. farpolemiddle

    farpolemiddle Portland Member

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    We handle the Acog in several different ways in the military. With the newer ones that have the fiber reticle it is pretty much used as a 2 eye open sight/ocluded sight. The older Acogs without the fiber optics we have have the built in back up irons on top. But in all honesty we spend so much time doing ready up drills and room clearing that at the ranges involved its pretty much body position and over the top of the rifle. I have seen the back up red dots on top but there has been several problems. we break them like no other.Also the cheek weld sucks since it is a little weird to lift your head that high(I had the same problem while cross training with the German G36 some years back that has a magnified sight on bottom and a red dot on top). The Acogs shine when it comes to anything over 100 meters or general spotting for weapons squads or Mortars. It all depends on the unit. I am in the 82nd and we have a mix of Acogs, Eotechs, and Aimpoints but I have seen units that use nothing but Acogs as well. I personally prefer Aimpoints.
     
  11. Buddhalux

    Buddhalux Hillsboro, Oregon Active Member

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    What BCT are you in in the 82?
     
  12. farpolemiddle

    farpolemiddle Portland Member

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    1/325 AIR 2ND BCT for about 52 more days.