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A gunman killed a Virginia Tech police officer

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by biggie24420, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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  2. sheepdip

    sheepdip Redland Well-Known Member

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    i simply dont understand why people who are going to cap themselves feel the need to take other people with them:confused:
     
  3. Lush

    Lush Seattle, Washington, United States Active Member

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    those things happen more in the US then in lest say canada because any jackass get go get a gun with ease. buy ammo and kill people. if there are strong laws here like there are up north the chance of this happining would be less. why do America have the highest murder rate of any 1st world nation....... because we have way to loose gun laws. stong gun laws with civilized people works. wouldnt work in mexico. but could work in the US
     
  4. wwkii

    wwkii gilchrist oregon Active Member

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    wtf who is this guy
     
  5. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Yeah its worked great in Canada, Australia, and Britain, all of which saw increased crime rates with stricter firearm legislation. However Finland, Switzerland, Denmark, and Israel all have a higher percentage of gun ownership than the US, with less strict laws, and yet have lower crime rates than the US. There has never been any country that has shown a decrease in crime rates with stricter gun laws.

    Do you really think someone intent on committing a crime such as murder is going to just go ahead and follow the law to get their firearm?

    Or is this grammatical atrocity a feeble attempt at trolling on a firearms forum?
     
  6. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I think his name says it all.
     
  7. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Probably a nutty friend walked up to his PC and typed that incoherent nonsense. Call it benefit of the doubt.
     
  8. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Lush-it's not the firearm(s) that is the problem, it's the criminal mind. A decorated police officer with twenty years of service can snap one day and kill with a gun. His or her gun did not wake up one day and decide to go kill another human. I had a friend who's father was a cop for over fifteen years in California... one night he tried to kill his wife and he called 911 and told dispatch to come get his body and that he is going to try and kill his wife. He beat his wife almost to death, took his revolver and blew his brains out. It's the human that kills not the gun.... well actually I would say it's the bullet/projectile that does the damage but my point is that we can't control the criminal mind and that is the problem. If anything, more people should be armed because evil is everywhere. But we must also understand that just because you carry, you are not 100% safe..... just look at the officer who died.... he was armed, probably was wearing body armor, he was trained and yet he lost his life to an act of crime. At least the nut job didn't take more lives but if he tried it would have been very easy because I bet you most people on campus were not armed.
     
  9. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    That is one of the best posts I have read in this entire web site. Thanks!
     
  10. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.... I appreciate the positive comment.
     
  11. wwkii

    wwkii gilchrist oregon Active Member

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    i looked in his previous posts and he has actually bought guns i hope everyone remembers this lush and dosent deal with him
     
  12. Aero Denezol

    Aero Denezol Salem Active Member

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    I'm sticking by my assertion most random acts of violence are perpetrated by the mentally ill. I would never risk my freedom just to make a point, or to get attention... So, I think mental illness has to be addressed in this case, not the gun laws. Some guy in the Portland area set fire to his house and started shooting at random just last week; he was a diagnosed schizophrenic.

    Black market justice and domestic violence are far more common than random shootings. The random shootings are what the public is scared of. I think they should worry more more about the psychotic ex's running around..
     
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    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    Denmark? I lived there for 5 years and know for a fact that handguns have to stay at the gun club and shotguns are not very common even on farms.
     
  14. donovanjdouglas

    donovanjdouglas Yamhill Member

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    I agree with biggie24420. That's why I support CCW on college campuses. If more people carried then more lives could be saved. Guns laws will never control crime because laws are irrelevant to someone's motives, evil, or psychological illness. If someone wants a gun bad enough they'll find a way to circumvent gun laws to get one. I know it sounds counter-intuitive to increase the number of carried weapons to reduce crime or at least death, but think about it like the Wild West. Crime and murder was rampant, and this was only reduced not through legislation or gun laws, but through an increase of guns carried for defense.
     
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    sanitizer97045 oregon city New Member

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    "This year will go down in history.For the first time,a civilized nation has full gun registration.Our streets will be safer,our police more efficient,and the world will follow our lead into the future!" -Adolf Hitler,1935
     
  16. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Didn't you know? You can't post quotes from Adolf Hitler or use him as an example for gun control unless you want Stormfront/Arian Brotherhood/Anti-Semite types explaining to you about how Hitler was just a misunderstood individual and that "gun cotrol" was actually in place before Hitler...oh and that whole Holocaust thing is just exaggerated.