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9mm & 40 s&w powder choices

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by JO JO, Apr 5, 2013.

  1. JO JO

    JO JO Vancouver WA Active Member

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    what would be a good powder that burns clean meters well and can load it mild to upper warm,
    loading 9mm and 40 s&w, my powder is all gone now :( so when the stores stock again looking to try something
    different
     
  2. tackleberry

    tackleberry Vancouver Member

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    tite group works well I have used it in 9 and 40
     
  3. chainsaw

    chainsaw East side of Or. Active Member

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    I am brand new to loading 40s&w,I have only loaded for it once really.my recipice is 8.0 grs of aa#5 behind 150 gr Nosler jhp bullets.of the few I shot,they seem to be pretty accurate,3" at 10 yrds,and it is a pleasurable load to shoot.
     
  4. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    That is not accurate at 30 feet.

    Loads I have done in 40 S&W:
    hp-38
    HS-6

    PM is you want the data
     
  5. chainsaw

    chainsaw East side of Or. Active Member

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    what do you consider accurate out of a 4"barreled Sigma?
     
  6. nwbobber

    nwbobber Longview, Wa. Active Member

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    I guess it depends how you shoot the groups. I would be happy with 3" groups unless I was using a rest. I also like AA# 5 for both 40 and 9. I can't find any though.
     
  7. chainsaw

    chainsaw East side of Or. Active Member

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    The group I got was from a weaver stance with a new style pistol,for me.I have a 1911 also and the trigger is very different from this double action only pistol.I do know I need LOTS of practice with it.
    What is a good group off a rest?
     
  8. Twodogs

    Twodogs portland Or Active Member

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    I like W-231 in the 9mm and the .40s&w I load 5.7grs of W-231 with a 115g rbullet in the 9mm and use the same powder charge with a 180gr bullet in the .40cal.
     
  9. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    My Speer 14 book shows a maximum of 4.9gr of 231 under a 155gr Jacketed bullet in 9mm!! I do well at 4.2gr 231 under a 124gr JHP in 9mm.


    In .40 the book shows 5.8-6.5 231 under a 155gr jacketed bullet.

    A gentleman at the range had suggested for me to use HS-6 in .40 for my CZ75 due to the barrel length, allowing the slower powder to burn fully. The combo gets me great accuracy and burns fully and cleanly. HS-6 measures great too.

    I've used Titegroup, Unique, HS-6 and 231 in 9mm. HS-6 seemed good for a warmer load but I've settled on 231 as I don't need hot loads for the range.

    Good luck finding any powder for handgun!

    Mike
     
  10. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    Over the last 30 years of so I've used a lot of powders for 9mm loading. In short, just about all of them work pretty good.

    That said, I have settled on Power Pistol for all my "9" loading and if I ever get a "40" I'd use it there.

    It burns clean, yields some good speeds with a 124 gr. bullet, and meters as well as any powder out there in my Dillon 650 powder measure. When I bought my last supply it was a little less expensive than the other "usual suspects" but aside from that I just like the overall performance.

    If I were to use another powder it would be Vihtavouri 3N37. Oh, wait! I already do. I use that to "power" my SD loads with a Speer Gold Dot Hollow Point 124 gr.
     
  11. JO JO

    JO JO Vancouver WA Active Member

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    how did the HS6 burn always read it is very dirty ?
    it does have apealing load data
     
  12. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    As has been written on NWFA by one of the wise ones: "Gun powder is made with graphite, graphite is dirty, therefore guns get dirty when you shoot them", or something to that effect. I just know that it shoots well in my full size CZ-75 with no unburnt powder. I figure short barrel semi-autos, would use a faster powder, longer barrel could better utilize a slower powder. In my relative short time loading, what Deadshot 2 said seems true to me.

    I use this site when contemplating what powders may work for what guns. Powder Burn Rates
    AND of course input from NWFA members.

    Disclaimer: Always confirm hand loads with a qualified source or two.

    Mike
     
  13. FarmerTed1971

    FarmerTed1971 Portland, Oregon, United States Well-Known Member

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    ANother vote for W231
     
  14. P7id10T

    P7id10T Cedar Hills Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    CZ75 in 40. My go-to gun: fast acquisition, tame recoil and shoot the knots out of plywood at 20 yards. :)

    I used Titegroup and AA#2 in both my CZ and HK P7 and generally load hot. Just picked up 2# of Power Pistol, want to give it a try in my Hi Power and CZ.

    On accuracy, 3" groups off-hand at 30' may not be considered accurate, but AFIC it's a headshot. Aim at the body, consider shake and you still (probably) have a hit.
     
  15. lcb97269

    lcb97269 Milwaukie, OR Life Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Too many powders to list that will work, most being on the faster end of the spectrum. Google works great for finding load data. Type in powder type and cartridge and you'll find it all in seconds.
     
  16. SinisterSouthpaw

    SinisterSouthpaw SW WA Active Member

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    I like HS-6 as a powder that fills the case well, but N-340 is better in my guns downrange. A good alternative, but not a good case filler, so pay extra attention when loading, is W231. Load Data for these can be found on the Hogon website and the Vihtavuori website.
     
  17. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    If you have an assailant at gunpoint, it's a lot better to let them get closer. Not only increases the chances of a fight stopping hit but is easier to make a case for Self Defense:cool:

    Now if they have a gun and have popped off a shot, work on getting those groups under 3" at distance. Guaranteed that they'll double or even triple in size when under stress.

    As for pistol accuracy, I've found that the major portion is the shooter, not the powder/load.
     
  18. GadgetGeek

    GadgetGeek Portland, Oregon Member

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    Both my CZ75 9mm and SR9 love Power Pistol. 5.2 grains behind 124 grain JHP. There is a bit more muzzle show, but it makes power factor and shoots great! :)
     
  19. JO JO

    JO JO Vancouver WA Active Member

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    I have used power pistol I did find it a good powder but in 40 s&w the flash could be distracting anyone try universal ,
    like the low flash types so if needed it wont mess up your vision in low light,
     
  20. gunfreak

    gunfreak Boise Well-Known Member

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    I reload to save $ and as a hobby. Don't read so into it that you get picky. I use 700X, Unique, Bullseye, Titegroup, Green Dot and Universal. They all push my cast bullets down range and have never had issue's with any of them.