Will you move if WA /OR take on more gun restrictions like CA?

[Quartermaster]

AMF!! I will go back south in a heartbeat. I love it here, but I will vacate with a quickness.

If by "south" you mean Kalifornia, I don't think you'll be missed with that kind of attitude. We need men and women with fortitude, and resolve.

 

[Dungannon]

My folks move to Washington in 1963 when I was 12. The wife and I have lived in this house since 1974. My next move is to a niche at a National Cemetery. If 2a rights got so bad here as to make me think about moving then I'd just accelerate the gifting of firearms [which began several years ago] to my kids and grandkids.

 

[The JOe]

whew, just read the entire thread. There seems like there will be a point that all of us (what i consider normal people) gather in a state or multiple and simply stand our ground if it keeps getting out of hand and spreading like flesh eating bacteria.

Im moving up to Washington for family reasons but depending on a few situations my plan was to move to Utah. The Mormon's lost so much land from "Deserette" with the government that nobody is messing with them yet it seems. When the Sheriff's of i think 62 out of 63 counties signed and sent that letter to the gov that if any federal worker tries to come into their back yards and bring in new gun laws that they would arrest on sight I knew thats where i wanted to be.

Being from Texas people think its 2A Heaven but Other than BBQ Austin is very very similar to the uber liberal places like Santa Monica, San Francisco, Portland and what seems to be migrating more to Seattle area's.

Friends don't believe me but liberals are like a virus taking over the Ocean States/ports and we are going to end up surrounded and if its not a Race war first it will be the next Civil War in America. Just so sad and frustrating. They want their 1A right SO Much and "trigger this, cry that" and they don't realize that without the 2nd you can kiss the rest goodby. CA is a lost cause right now though. the right people need to legally fortify the states we have left.

 

[Gene Rojas]

We're leaving California because it's out of control- it's filled with Liberals wanting to give illegals free housing, food, healthcare, cell phones; violent crime happening even in so-called "good areas", plus the cost of living is going up every year. And of course the Liberals are pushing hard with laws to eventually ban semi-auto rifles and pistols here. I just don't see how it would be possible to live here after retiring, especially with the high property taxes too. Of course the weather is beautiful and warm all year long, but you have to have deep pockets to buy rental properties and buy enough of them to make enough income to live off of- rents here cost as much as a mortgage on a nice $350-400k house in Salem or Keizer.

I guess I would be considered part of the "wave of Californians" driving up housing prices, but with family in Keizer and friends in Salem I've known for 20 years I'd say we're not refugees- we're just coming home. And if liberal Californians think they can buy their way into town and take over like Kevin Costner, they can guess again- Oregon and Washington is "God's country". People here are predominantly God-fearing, Christian, church-going people. They also enjoy nature, hunting, fishing, camping, off-roading, shooting- the majority of Northwest people won't tolerate all of the nonsense going on here in CA. Of course there are some gays, atheists, Muslims, etc. up there too, but they don't try to tell the majority how to live their lives- down here in CA those groups have liberals and wealthy Hollywood types helping them to take over. If lawyers and politicians tried the same crap they did here in CA, most people would march on Salem and Olympia with rifles in hand. I don't see the liberal takeover happening in the Northwest, as long as the locals speak with their votes and keep Conservative politicians in office.

Geno

 

[Dungannon]

Well if you want to move where lots of your neighbors are firearm owners, check out this Firearm Blog article from 2014.
America's Most Heavily Armed Counties - Surprise! - The Firearm Blog

 

[RVTECH]

And if liberal Californians think they can buy their way into town and take over like Kevin Costner, they can guess again-

Spent much time in Oregon? Because THIS has already happened!

 

[etrain16]

I'm of the belief that running to another state is only prolonging the inevitable. We need to stay and fight, state by state. Each state that falls is simply more momentum in the anti-gun movement. And believing that moving to another state will keep you safe from that encroachment on your rights - well, it may work for a while, but their goal is 50 states, not 6, 7, 8 or just the coastal states. They will not rest until they have 100% gun control from coast to coast.

So, my plan is to stay here. Fight/help where I can. Create new pro-gun voters at every opportunity. And refuse to believe that it is impossible to turn this around. Perhaps it won't happen in my lifetime, but maybe in my daughter's?? We're raising her to be a strong supporter too. Maybe some day we'll see the pendulum swing back our direction. Oregon is my home, even if it's full of freedom-hating filth at the moment.

I foresee many more people will become 'non-compliant' citizens in the future.

 

[cascadianliberty2012]

I'm of the belief that running to another state is only prolonging the inevitable. We need to stay and fight, state by state. Each state that falls is simply more momentum in the anti-gun movement. And believing that moving to another state will keep you safe from that encroachment on your rights - well, it may work for a while, but their goal is 50 states, not 6, 7, 8 or just the coastal states. They will not rest until they have 100% gun control from coast to coast.

So, my plan is to stay here. Fight/help where I can. Create new pro-gun voters at every opportunity. And refuse to believe that it is impossible to turn this around. Perhaps it won't happen in my lifetime, but maybe in my daughter's?? We're raising her to be a strong supporter too. Maybe some day we'll see the pendulum swing back our direction. Oregon is my home, even if it's full of freedom-hating filth at the moment.

I foresee many more people will become 'non-compliant' citizens in the future.

Would you mind explaining what "stand and fight" actually means? I'm not singling you out, but I hear this SO much and don't understand it. Does it mean voting? Because that has ZERO chance of working simply by math. Does it mean partitioning the state? Because the feds would never go for that? Does it mean "locking and loading?" Because that seems like the only thing that would actually force change.

 

[etrain16]

Would you mind explaining what "stand and fight" actually means? I'm not singling you out, but I hear this SO much and don't understand it. Does it mean voting? Because that has ZERO chance of working simply by math. Does it mean partitioning the state? Because the feds would never go for that? Does it mean "locking and loading?" Because that seems like the only thing that would actually force change.

It means what I said - specifically in my 2nd paragraph. What we need to do, to get the numbers we need, is to pull all gun owners together and find a way to get folks to vote for pro-gun people. I don't think that's impossible, but I think it is difficult. I'm willing to work toward that end, and I know a lot of others are too. This year alone, I've managed to bring a dozen or so folks around to the pro-gun side. If everyone could do that, it would add up to some influential numbers.

Fact is, this is my home state. I have no desire to leave, so I want to try and turn the tide. I'm not convinced its a lost cause, but I know plenty of folks think just that. While I think the idea of a State of Jefferson is a great one, I really think that's never going to happen. I also don't believe that bugging out of here to another more free state will help much as pretty much every state is under the same attack, some are more advanced than others.

For now, we need to find a way to pull all gun owners and potential gun owners together, and find a way to organize that voting power to influence Salem in such a way that they eventually move away from gun control. I believe it can happen, I know some don't believe that.

 

[cascadianliberty2012]

It means what I said - specifically in my 2nd paragraph. What we need to do, to get the numbers we need, is to pull all gun owners together and find a way to get folks to vote for pro-gun people. I don't think that's impossible, but I think it is difficult. I'm willing to work toward that end, and I know a lot of others are too. This year alone, I've managed to bring a dozen or so folks around to the pro-gun side. If everyone could do that, it would add up to some influential numbers.

Fact is, this is my home state. I have no desire to leave, so I want to try and turn the tide. I'm not convinced its a lost cause, but I know plenty of folks think just that. While I think the idea of a State of Jefferson is a great one, I really think that's never going to happen. I also don't believe that bugging out of here to another more free state will help much as pretty much every state is under the same attack, some are more advanced than others.

For now, we need to find a way to pull all gun owners and potential gun owners together, and find a way to organize that voting power to influence Salem in such a way that they eventually move away from gun control. I believe it can happen, I know some don't believe that.

Right, I understand that, but I question the feasibility. How can we, an active minority, ever wish to counterbalance the migrating leftist hordes from the south? I mean, maybe we should all become polygamists and have 30 children each... then maybe we can outnumber them in a generation

 

[etrain16]

Right, I understand that, but I question the feasibility. How can we, an active minority, ever wish to counterbalance the migrating leftist hordes from the south? I mean, maybe we should all become polygamists and have 30 children each... then maybe we can outnumber them in a generation

Thanks, but one wife is enough...

I agree, it sounds like an impossibility. But I've seen, as I noted, a dozen folks that were either not gun friendly or gun owners, change their minds about these things in the last year, simply by taking them to the range and by talking with them. Most of them were not even aware of the fight against these rights - it's surprising how little people know. Getting them educated about these things, and that includes a lot of gun owners that still don't know much of anything about this fight, is a big step that individuals can undertake themselves.

I guess I just can't stomach seeing my state handed over to bad people. Politics often works in waves, almost like the swing of a pendulum, but those swings may last several generations before they come back again. Maybe it won't happen in my lifetime, but maybe it will in my daughter's. And I can tell you, she is getting a good lesson in what our liberties mean. I will simply keep trying to influence things so long as I can, and maybe, just maybe, I'll see it get better one day.

 

[DeanfromOregon]

If by "south" you mean Kalifornia, I don't think you'll be missed with that kind of attitude. We need men and women with fortitude, and resolve.

Simma down now! I'm thinking he means "the south".

 

[PaulB47]

I guess I would be considered part of the "wave of Californians" driving up housing prices, but with family in Keizer and friends in Salem I've known for 20 years I'd say we're not refugees- we're just coming home.

This is exactly what people should be doing - moving to places with people like themselves. And that includes gun haters moving from Oregon down to California too.

Would you mind explaining what "stand and fight" actually means?

Using techniques of nonviolent resistance if possible:
198 Methods of Nonviolent Action

Violent resistance if those don't work.

 

[RVTECH]

And that includes gun haters moving from Oregon down to California too.

'They' will hate guns no matter where they move to. 'They' moved here to escape what they left in California only to bring it and their anti gun attitudes with them. 'They' have no plans on going anywhere.

 

[Gene Rojas]

'They' will hate guns no matter where they move to. 'They' moved here to escape what they left in California only to bring it and their anti gun attitudes with them. 'They' have no plans on going anywhere.

I'm only bringing my rifle, pistol and a love for firearms up with me- looking forward to the freedom to own firearms restricted in the Socialist Republic of Commie-fornia. I've hated the last 15 years I've been trapped in CA, and now that my wife is amenable to moving back up, we will do just that. Sometimes I wish I didn't leave Oregon back in 2001, but then I wouldn't have met my wife- not sure how my life would have been if I had just stayed up. But we'll have a nice nest neg after we sell the house here and start house shopping.

Geno

 

[gaijinsamurai]

I was born in Oregon, and with the exception my hitch in the Marine Corps and five + years as an expat in Asia and Latin America, have lived in the Pacific NW all my life.

I'll stay, and make a stand here. F*** 'em.

 

[NCW_Robert]

To the point where you will be deemed a felon for carrying anything more dangerous than a whistle?

We can only hope the antigunners pull some stupid stunt like eliminate the existing concealed carry permit laws in this state. They would rue the day they overplayed their hand.

The Ninth Circuit decision applies to two counties in California, folks, it's not legislation. It's just a poorly written and researched decision that is very appealable. The gun haters and their lapdog media trolls are trying to push it into a lot more than it actually is.

"very appealable" my arse. who are you going to appeal to? the supreme liberal arse court?

Listen that communist nut job Hillary is probably going to win and be our next president [SIC]. Who do you think she is going to nominate for the next supreme court justice... another Scalia?

NO.... we are pretty much screwed in the next few yrs....

Robert

 

[Ura-Ki]

Well if you want to move where lots of your neighbors are firearm owners, check out this Firearm Blog article from 2014.
America's Most Heavily Armed Counties - Surprise! - The Firearm Blog

Ha, I'm in #6!!! Not that I didn't all ready know that, just nice to see it!

 

[PaulB47]

Who do you think she is going to nominate for the next supreme court justice... another Scalia?

NO.... we are pretty much screwed in the next few yrs....

So, if Hillary orders all guns to be turned in, and the court says that is constitutional, what are you going to do?

 

[Ura-Ki]

So, if Hillary orders all guns to be turned in, and the court says that is constitutional, what are you going to do?

For me, this is a real easy answer, Will Not Comply! I have all the advantages of space and time as well as the redneck coms to sound the alarms, so I say come and try, bring arty!!!